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    3-gun pistol selection considerations

    As a newb I'm curious to hear from some of the vets as to what kinds of things one should take into account when selecting a pistol for 3-gun comp in the tac irons/optics divisions. I'm not looking to go out and buy a gun specifically for 3-gun, I'm more looking at how to decide which member of my collection to bring.

    Usually I prefer to run a 1911 in CDP or SS for pistol only games, but maybe that puts me at a capacity disadvantage. I have a 9 and a 40 for double stack polymer guns in my stable aswell, but then its a question of 40 to knock over steel or 9 low recoil (and cost).

    Thoughts?

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    9mm double stack polymer of choice. Steel goes down fine with American Eagle 147 grn's.

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    If you're okay with minor PF on pistol, go with the 9mm. I've shot some real soft loaded 124gr loads (probably 127pf, real close to the PF floor) and factory 115gr loads (135+ pf), never had a problem with steel unless it was calibrated too heavy or I just didn't hit it in the right place.

    The little 3-gun I've been able to shoot I shot in Tactical division (16" AR with Aimpoint Micro). I ran the same Glock 34 or Glock 17 I run in USPSA Production division, just load the magazines to 15 or 16 rounds. Eventually I'll get a few Arredondo extensions, but it's not a problem with the local matches.

    One of my friends I've shot with runs a 1911 with 10 rounders and hasn't has a problem here at local matches either.
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    Cheaper route: Glock or M&P 9mms if you want a plastic frame, CZ SP01 if you want a steel frame.

    More $$ to burn? 9mm STI/SV or CZ Custom Shop 9mm Tactical Sport.

    Yet more $$ to burn? .38 Super STI/SV

    But in any event, you want a hi cap 9. Cheaper to shoot, less recoil, more BBs. .40s are competitive but not the best choice. The occasional difficult piece of steel does not outweigh the significant advantages of 9mm in outlaw 3 gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelly neal View Post
    Cheaper route: Glock or M&P 9mms if you want a plastic frame, CZ SP01 if you want a steel frame.

    More $$ to burn? 9mm STI/SV
    or CZ Custom Shop 9mm Tactical Sport.

    Yet more $$ to burn? .38 Super STI/SV

    But in any event, you want a hi cap 9. Cheaper to shoot, less recoil, more BBs. .40s are competitive but not the best choice. The occasional difficult piece of steel does not outweigh the significant advantages of 9mm in outlaw 3 gun.
    Yup, I'm headed that route as soon as I get the tip of this barrel chopped off:


    I can't imagine anyone shooting .38 Super outside of open without going broke and/or crazy from losing all of their brass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambluemax View Post
    As a newb I'm curious to hear from some of the vets as to what kinds of things one should take into account when selecting a pistol for 3-gun comp in the tac irons/optics divisions. I'm not looking to go out and buy a gun specifically for 3-gun, I'm more looking at how to decide which member of my collection to bring.

    Usually I prefer to run a 1911 in CDP or SS for pistol only games, but maybe that puts me at a capacity disadvantage. I have a 9 and a 40 for double stack polymer guns in my stable aswell, but then its a question of 40 to knock over steel or 9 low recoil (and cost).

    Thoughts?
    For Tactical class I use my USPSA limited gun a STI Edge in 40sw. It works well for me. At outlaw matches a 9mm would be nice but I can't afford two limited guns.



    For open class I got this pistol. I have only used it in one match so far so I am still getting used to it. It was not a three gun match just a pistol match. But so far I like it.
    A Caspian in 38 super comp.

    You definitely need a high cap pistol for three gun. I started using my single stack Wilson that I used for work and it is a major disadvantage.

    Here is a good video on how to select a pistol.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXgzl...e_gdata_player
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    As AKPoPo says, you'll be at a SEVERE disadvantage with a single stack gun. Plus, in 3 gun you have to consider how you'll wear all the needed gear. It's hard to find space for all the single stack mags you'll need, and also the AR mag(s), and the shotgun ammo.

    If the match you're competing in has major/minor scoring, advantage goes to .40 over 9mm.

    Major PF (.40)
    A =5 points
    B/C = 4
    D = 2

    Minor PF (9mm)
    A 5
    B/C 3
    D 1

    .40 will also knock steel over better/faster/more noticeably than 9mm, esp when you have marginal hits.

    I don't shoot 3 gun much anymore, but for Tactical class I've been very happy with my SVI in .40

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