Steroids and Blood Doping for LEO/Mil/Competitive Shooters

[dookie1481]

Try and justify it anyway you want. If you take steroids or HGH, supervised or not, your a ****ing loser, plain and simple.

You know, you should go work for WADA...they are always in need of more pompous myopics.

I hope you don't "cheat" by taking Viagra, statins, exogenous insulin, vaccines, or any of those other "cheater drugs" that have improved quality of life or life expectancy.

Drawing an arbitrary line in the sand and calling anything on the other side "cheating" is intellectually dishonest.

[MarkG]

You know, you should go work for WADA...they are always in need of more pompous myopics.

I hope you don't "cheat" by taking Viagra, statins, exogenous insulin, vaccines, or any of those other "cheater drugs" that have improved quality of life or life expectancy.

Drawing an arbitrary line in the sand and calling anything on the other side "cheating" is intellectually dishonest.

Apples and oranges...

[Littlelebowski]

I have no intention of ever taking these but are they THAT much of a danger to society?

For those that like to self medicate, Anabolic Steroids are a Schedule III Controlled Substance. If you are buying them over the internet from China or Pakistan you are violating 21USC852 and 18USC545. These are federal felonies, you're attorney will not be talking to you about probation but federal jail time (truth in sentencing; you'll serve 85%). If you are buying them in bulk amounts and you recieve them then you are Possessing with the Intent to Distribute, a federal felony under 21USC841. Doing this with a friend? Conspiracy, 18USC371. If you are selling them to your friends at the gym, you are trafficking. Cop, personal trainer, or even a doctor (the selling of "cheap" foreign steroids by doctors is becoming more popular) buying these from overseas someone will eventually be coming for you. Keep them at your house? Expect a visit. If you go to your P.O. box to pick them up, they'll be seizing your car as a "fruit or instrumentality". The guys I know enforcing this give no second thought to arresting cops, firefighters, doctors, or professional athletes and the U.S. Attorney's Office loves the cases because they are slam dunks with great press exposure. Illegal steroids are not worth messing around with.

[dookie1481]

Apples and oranges...

No, it really isn't. YOU think it is. What makes the legal administration of, say, test enanthate morally reprehensible, while using a statin is just fine?

[dookie1481]

I have no intention of ever taking these but are they THAT much of a danger to society?

Of course they are. The government said so.

EDIT: Sorry, I made a pointless, pithy little comment that didn't advance the discussion. Will Brink had a good post about the subject here.

[duckinthebox]

Good point..you'd be better off getting amp'd up on some cocaine. That way if you get caught you can plea down to a littering charge. Most weak public officials in charge of prosecuting are much more subject to understanding cocaine use because most do it. They know too much steroid useage might cause you to beat their asses! JOKING!

[kmrtnsn]

I have no intention of ever taking these but are they THAT much of a danger to society?

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/ans/psycho..._steroids.html

[dookie1481]

The majority of studies on inexperienced weight trainers indicate that lean body weight, strength, and aerobic power are unlikely to change by the ingestion of anabolic steroids.

Laughing my mother****ing ass off.

Was that paper written for a COM 101 class? I hope you have better evidence than that.

[nhskull21]

I say steroids should be fair game. Especially for people in combat 300-400mg of test per week would be perfect.

[Hammer27]

Low doses for certain military personnel may be acceptable in the future (strictly controlled though) but its unlikely. By and large most LEO's don't need to be going to the supreme levels of fitness that AAS promise. I doubt we'll live to see the stigma/risks alleviated.