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    7.62x39 upper

    I'm looking for the 411 on this upper
    http://www.galatiinternational.com/p...MDB762PRF.html
    I contacted the company to find out if there are any restrictions with surplus ammo shot out of this barrel. She didn't give me a clear answer but recommended "commercial" ammo. Should I pass on this?
    Thank you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by g-men10455 View Post
    I'm looking for the 411 on this upper
    http://www.galatiinternational.com/p...MDB762PRF.html
    I contacted the company to find out if there are any restrictions with surplus ammo shot out of this barrel. She didn't give me a clear answer but recommended "commercial" ammo. Should I pass on this?
    Thank you.


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    I would say yes pass. If you want better ballistics get the .300 blackout and if you want cheaper shooting get a 5.45 upper. The mag situation with 7.62x39 sucks.
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    I already have the 5.45x39 and a 6.8. I was looking for an alternative to my ak which I'm not too fond off.


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    I have a Colt 16 inch M4 7.62x39mm that I purchased back in 1999 but I had a real bad luck with magazines till I found C-Products 30rd mags in 7.62x39mm. I know that C-products are no longer in business but Yankee Hill Machine carries a mag that I suspect is or was made by C-products and found a company that seems to be the current incarnation of C-Products A.S.C. LLC. Its been my experience that Brass and Non-lacquered ammo work best. For the best accuracy I found that 147gr FMJBT 308 worked great for me out of both my Ruger Mini-30 and the Colt Upper. I currently have 6 of the C-Product mags without any issues and I am planning to get a few of the ASC to try and if they work out get more. The Caliber is solid and as long as you get an upper that is well build you should not have any issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by af22raptor View Post
    I have a Colt 16 inch M4 7.62x39mm that I purchased back in 1999 but I had a real bad luck with magazines till I found C-Products 30rd mags in 7.62x39mm. I know that C-products are no longer in business but Yankee Hill Machine carries a mag that I suspect is or was made by C-products and found a company that seems to be the current incarnation of C-Products A.S.C. LLC. Its been my experience that Brass and Non-lacquered ammo work best. For the best accuracy I found that 147gr FMJBT 308 worked great for me out of both my Ruger Mini-30 and the Colt Upper. I currently have 6 of the C-Product mags without any issues and I am planning to get a few of the ASC to try and if they work out get more. The Caliber is solid and as long as you get an upper that is well build you should not have any issues.
    But why buy into a problematic design. Mags are an issue and even if there were some ones that worked, magazines are a consumable item they wear out. I say if you want a .30 caliber AR15 get the .300 Blackout. Why deal with the headachs of the 7.62x39 in an AR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskapopo View Post
    But why buy into a problematic design. Mags are an issue and even if there were some ones that worked, magazines are a consumable item they wear out. I say if you want a .30 caliber AR15 get the .300 Blackout. Why deal with the headachs of the 7.62x39 in an AR.
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    Well the main reason that I have stayed with 7.62x39mm is the cost of ammo and the availability. When I first purchased the upper I also purchased a USA Magazine 10rd mag that never had an issue the problem was with the higher capacity ones. When I found the C-products one I was able to finally get 30rd mags that I could rock and roll with. The Upper has always been a secondary fun upper that I keep for plinking and one of these days hunt with.
    The 7.62x39mm AR Platform can be a solid choice as long as you have reliable mags and that issue I believe has been resolved. If the platform was not viable I believe Colt would have never gotten into it and other manufactures would not be keeping it alive. I have been keeping my eye on the 300 blackout, 7.62x40WC, 6.8spc and others but none of the other calibers price point cannot compete with 7.62x39mm. The other calibers do not offer that much extra performance than a good hand-loaded 7.62PACT.

    That is my 2 Cents
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    Quote Originally Posted by af22raptor View Post
    Well the main reason that I have stayed with 7.62x39mm is the cost of ammo and the availability. When I first purchased the upper I also purchased a USA Magazine 10rd mag that never had an issue the problem was with the higher capacity ones. When I found the C-products one I was able to finally get 30rd mags that I could rock and roll with. The Upper has always been a secondary fun upper that I keep for plinking and one of these days hunt with.
    The 7.62x39mm AR Platform can be a solid choice as long as you have reliable mags and that issue I believe has been resolved. If the platform was not viable I believe Colt would have never gotten into it and other manufactures would not be keeping it alive. I have been keeping my eye on the 300 blackout, 7.62x40WC, 6.8spc and others but none of the other calibers price point cannot compete with 7.62x39mm. The other calibers do not offer that much extra performance than a good hand-loaded 7.62PACT.

    That is my 2 Cents
    I understand if you already own a 7.62x39 and you have mags why you would not want to change. But for a person looking to get into a new caliber, to me it seems to make very little sense.
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    What don't you like about your AK?

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    The ballistics of 300 Blackout and 7.62x40 WC are very close to 7.62x39mm and as long as you get the better mags it makes more sense to go with the 7.62pact since you can get more ammo for less money making it a better bang for the buck! Georgia Arms makes an AWESOME 125gr Nosler Ballistic tip round in 7.62Pact that is very accurate and reliable in both the AR and Mini Thirty. Hornady is making the Metal Case Match ammo and for what I read its very accurate as well. I have been researching the 7.62Pact for years and loading possibilities are endless just like in 300Blackout.

    what is your main issue with the caliber?

    With the Remington/Bushmaster ACR having 7.62Pact barrels coming online soon the Magazine issue will get better specially with a PMAG version comes out.
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    I live in the very constricted state of California, I'm also a peace officer. Most people outside of this state are aware of the way our rifles are nutter with the magazine release button/lock. This makes the magazine change very complicated. With the AR we don't have that problem because is an approved rifle. It's not that I don't like the ak, I don't like the magazine lock on it. That is the reason why I when with an AR in 5.45x39 instead of the ak-74.


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