Originally Posted by
demigod
Just don't buy the carbon 15 junk.
Other than that you could do the cav-15 polymer lower. That plus a pencil barreled upper would be pretty light.
There are just as many proponents/opponents of the Carbon 15 as the Cav-15 from what I have personally seen (and heard- not read on the web).
Can you quantify what "pretty light" is?
Originally Posted by
rob_s
Remember that as weight decreases, felt recoil and recovery time between shots increases.
With that said, the Colt 6520 is the best compromise of weight vs. quality available.
Well stated (recoil). This is even more readily apparent with 1911 class pistols with alloy frames.
+1 (mostly) on the Colt. My preference would be on a personal build, but for off the shelf.....
Originally Posted by
nationwide
I put together a CavArms MkII lower with a flat top upper and a Bushmaster super light barrel. With the Trijicon Reflex optic, it actually weighed less than my Springfield Armory 1911 (actually weighed the two with my RCBS trigger scale).
I disagree with the increase in perceived recoil... it feels the same as my M4 profile barrel did. However, you are spot on regarding recovery time, it did jump quite abit...
I may end up building another CavArms lower / super light upper for my fiancee... it's a good build.
Also, remember, these aren't
really super light or lightweight barrels. They're the original contour!
Percieved recoil is a matter of perception, but I believe that rob_s is spot on. The only way that I think that perceived recoil would be less is if your action cycled faster than the norm (ex.- put a 13lb recoil spring in a Glock 17 and the slide will cycle so fast that your sights seem to snap back down on your target when it goes back into battery).
The only advantage I can see to using Cav for a build is cost- in fact, over on TOS they (Cav) were selling off another brand plastymer lower (manufactured by Cav) for $200 complete with LPK. I just wondered if these were overruns/damaged/returns/customer rejects for such a cheap price.
Originally Posted by
Max Collins
The weight is mostly in the upper. Get a lightweight barrel, but don't skimp on the lower. The Cavarms lower is garbage and doesn't save you all that much weight over a standard aluminum lower. Plus, you can't have an adjustable stock to fit her length of pull perfectly with the cavarms plastic lower.
I am agreement here with where the majority of the weight is. The Cav lower is what it is. But they have found a niche in that lower end price point (see above). +1 on lack of fit. I would be more than confident using a brand X tier 2 etc lower receiver and "stock" LPK with milspec tube/buffer/retractable stock for a LW toy that would most likely see as much use as a Cav based build.
Look at it this way, if it wasn't for the Cav crew we wouldn't have all of those cheap take off stocks and handguards filling boxes in our storage lockers/garages.
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