First pics of SIG 553-US carbine. Time to get excited?

[SteyrAUG]

And if that were all true, folks would be having loads of issues with their 556 lowers but guess what (drum rollllll)....they're not. So get over it.

http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc...5/m/6870002442

http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc...5/m/2860068532

http://www.sigarms556.com/viewtopic.php?t=7815

http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc...5/m/4830011132

http://www.sigarms556.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10614

http://www.sigarms556.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=10176

[OhThatGuy]

Any gun that has sold 50,000+ units is going to have some units with issues (the Swiss guns included) but much of what you're posting isn't related to the lowers.

http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc...5/m/6870002442

http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc...5/m/2860068532

http://www.sigarms556.com/viewtopic.php?t=7815

http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc...5/m/4830011132

http://www.sigarms556.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10614

http://www.sigarms556.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=10176

[SteyrAUG]

Any gun that has sold 50,000+ units is going to have some units with issues (the Swiss guns included) but much of what you're posting isn't related to the lowers.

We can play a shell game all day.

I can say those are only the people having problems who happen to post those problems on the net and they represent only 1% of people having problems.

You stated people weren't having problems, but they are.

Now you state that many of those problems aren't related to the lower, but they could easily be related to the lower. I think a lot of the issues come from trying to adapt the AR magazine to the design and the related changes to the lower.

And finally nobody is having problems with Swiss guns to anywhere near the same degree. It just isn't happening. You keep bringing this up and I don't know why, you don't own a single Swiss gun, you don't seem to know anyone who does and you don't live in Switzerland.

And more importantly you aren't bringing cited examples. I post regularly on Sig Forums (where almost nobody owns Swiss rifles) and on Swiss Rifles.com where most people own Swiss rifles and the reported failures just aren't there.

So it seems to me you are talking about the occasional "anomaly" that can be produced by anyone. And while I have yet to see one, I accept the premise that it could happen even at SIG. But at the same time you are also trying to suggest all the complaints related to the 556 are the same kind of "anomaly" related to US SIG. The problem is the instance of reported issues and failures are much greater than that occasional "anomaly."

Now that doesn't mean all US SIGs are bad and people on this forum have tried to get that point across to you over and over and over again. But the fact of the matter is they are in no way even close to the standard of the Swiss SIG, another point people have tried to get across to you over and over and over again. it very much is like me insisting DPMS is just as good (maybe even better than Colt) simply because I happened to buy one that was not problematic and exhibited acceptable accuracy.

[scottryan]

And if that were all true, folks would be having loads of issues with their 556 lowers but guess what (drum rollllll)....they're not. So get over it.

You have zero experience with 55X series guns and you need to stop posting about these matters.

[variablebinary]

And if that were all true, folks would be having loads of issues with their 556 lowers but guess what (drum rollllll)....they're not. So get over it.

There is no if. It is in fact true that the SIG 556 has substandard QC, materials, proofing, build quality and reliability compared to the SIG 55X line of firearms.

That is probably why Swiss Arms is doing a STANAG mag model in-house instead of letting SIG USA spearhead the initiative. SIG USA, after making the 556 for 4 years, is still so incompetent and can't be trusted to make a quality firearm that Swiss Arms would rather handle it themselves.

It would be far easier for them to use SIG USA parts to complete the 553-USA, but nope, the parts are so shoddy they are essentially unusable while maintaining high Swiss standards.

[kal]

It would be far easier for them to use SIG USA parts to complete the 553-USA, but nope, the parts are so shoddy they are essentially unusable while maintaining high Swiss standards

That's a hell of a claim.

[Suwannee Tim]

.....That is probably why Swiss Arms is doing a STANAG mag model in-house instead of letting SIG USA spearhead the initiative. SIG USA, after making the 556 for 4 years, is still so incompetent and can't be trusted to make a quality firearm that Swiss Arms would rather handle it themselves.......

I think it probably has more to do with the fact that Schweizerische Industrie Gesellschaft builds guns for a living and, wanting to keep living they want to continue building guns. I really doubt they share your hatred for SIG Sauer.

[TOrrock]

Enough.

I'm about done with this bickering.

The fact is, SIG USA does not build guns to the standards of Swiss Arms.

Take the arguments off the forum if you guys need to keep at it.