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    Quote Originally Posted by Oreaopla View Post
    Steyr mentioned some early G3 marked Greek rifles but of those I've seen nothing. I'll email the gentleman you mentioned and see what he quotes me. Are his finishes close to the original HK style? Will adding a full auto carrier cause legal issues?

    One of LAV's AI's had Mike build a semi auto MP5A3 for him down here, which included a flap mag release, and he refinished it in Cerakote which looked great.

    There aren't any legal issues that I'm aware of running a full auto bolt carrier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Templar View Post
    There's also a very rare variant, one of the first ones to come in were actually marked G3. I'll swear to whatever deity you hold dear.....I had one. Came in the old pre ban Springfield Green Box.

    Not surprising.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oreaopla View Post
    Steyr mentioned some early G3 marked Greek rifles but of those I've seen nothing. I'll email the gentleman you mentioned and see what he quotes me. Are his finishes close to the original HK style? Will adding a full auto carrier cause legal issues?
    The G3 marked semi's I mentioned were actually early HK rifles and the FMP G3S rifles. Adding a full auto carrier usually doesn't create any legal issues unless you have some local laws regarding them.

    That said, a full auto carrier really doesn't do anything for you either.
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    Good read steyr.

    I really enjoy these rifles.

    I have a 1981 hk91 and a g3 clone built with a parts kit I picked up that included a cherry of a barrel that I really enjoy shooting.
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    I recently purchased a PTR-91 G.I. Upon taking it apart, I discovered my bolt carrier group is older than I am. It's marked HK 6/62, which I assume means it was made in June, 1962.

    If you want pictures of parts, let me know.

    Also, what is the proper sight picture for an HK series drum at using the V part of the drum? I'm wondering because when I zero elevation I'd like to make sure I'm not messing up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winnerkd View Post

    Also, what is the proper sight picture for an HK series drum at using the V part of the drum? I'm wondering because when I zero elevation I'd like to make sure I'm not messing up.
    It's in the manual, I'll try and do a scan later.
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    So I managed to find a decent deal on an SAR-8 overstamp and it should be reaching my dealer soon. I contacted Mike at TSC machine on templar's recommendation and he told me he will only work on HK guns and not any contract or clone rifles. I unfortunately didn't speak to him before buying the SAR but I most likely would have stuck with the SAR anyway. He said he doesn't deal with 922r and doesn't want someone to replace compliance parts down the line and have the ATF knocking on his door. So no go on TSC for me. I did contact T. Mark Graham at Arizona Response Systems and he is willing to do the work. My rifle has the silly beer keg pinned over the barrel threads so I'm having it replaced with a correct hk hider. I'm also thinking of adding the grenade launch ring for authenticity. Would I have to replace the front site (I think it's called a triple frame)? The only hitch appears to be with adding the anti-rattle paddle release. He told me he's not totally sure about the Greek receivers but the Portuguese, PTR and Pakistani versions won't work with the wider paddle. He doesn't have any on hand to check so I would have to order it on my own and send it with the SAR. Anyone have any info regarding whether the anti-rattle will work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oreaopla View Post
    So I managed to find a decent deal on an SAR-8 overstamp and it should be reaching my dealer soon. I contacted Mike at TSC machine on templar's recommendation and he told me he will only work on HK guns and not any contract or clone rifles. I unfortunately didn't speak to him before buying the SAR but I most likely would have stuck with the SAR anyway. He said he doesn't deal with 922r and doesn't want someone to replace compliance parts down the line and have the ATF knocking on his door. So no go on TSC for me. I did contact T. Mark Graham at Arizona Response Systems and he is willing to do the work. My rifle has the silly beer keg pinned over the barrel threads so I'm having it replaced with a correct hk hider. I'm also thinking of adding the grenade launch ring for authenticity. Would I have to replace the front site (I think it's called a triple frame)? The only hitch appears to be with adding the anti-rattle paddle release. He told me he's not totally sure about the Greek receivers but the Portuguese, PTR and Pakistani versions won't work with the wider paddle. He doesn't have any on hand to check so I would have to order it on my own and send it with the SAR. Anyone have any info regarding whether the anti-rattle will work?
    I would not get hung up on "anti rattle" paddle magazines releases. I have several G3s and not one of them "rattles" and that includes the ones that are 50 years old.

    I also wouldn't bother with grenade launching rings as they serve no function. They are cool if you have a G3 kit built into a rifle, but not worth the trouble of adding them on.

    Do the flash hider, paddle magazine release and then spend the rest of the money on uber cheap 20 round magazines.

    Also if you have a pressed on muzzle device, yours is a SAR 8, not an overstamp.
    Last edited by SteyrAUG; 04-21-11 at 15:47.
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    Here is my 2 CETME'S .I had to do a little tinkering to them to get them to shoot .

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I would not get hung up on "anti rattle" paddle magazines releases. I have several G3s and not one of them "rattles" and that includes the ones that are 50 years old.

    I also wouldn't bother with grenade launching rings as they serve no function. They are cool if you have a G3 kit built into a rifle, but not worth the trouble of adding them on.

    Do the flash hider, paddle magazine release and then spend the rest of the money on uber cheap 20 round magazines.

    Also if you have a pressed on muzzle device, yours is a SAR 8, not an overstamp.
    I'm just waiting for the rifle to get to my dealer at this point. Only issue now is to purchase the paddle so I'm just trying to figure out if the Greek receiver differs from the original HK version. Mark at arizona response said the HK version has extra material in the paddle release area so I'm not sure which style to buy as I have no idea which style paddle is correctly sized. Obviously, if the paddle is too wide he can shape it to fit but he said if the space for it on the receiver is too wide it would cause an issue. I have to buy the parts and send them with the rifle. Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oreaopla View Post
    I'm just waiting for the rifle to get to my dealer at this point. Only issue now is to purchase the paddle so I'm just trying to figure out if the Greek receiver differs from the original HK version. Mark at arizona response said the HK version has extra material in the paddle release area so I'm not sure which style to buy as I have no idea which style paddle is correctly sized. Obviously, if the paddle is too wide he can shape it to fit but he said if the space for it on the receiver is too wide it would cause an issue. I have to buy the parts and send them with the rifle. Any ideas?
    I had a 91 and a SAR-3 overstamp at the same time. The receivers were absolutely identical on the pair I had. Actually, the Greek gun was a little prettier than the 91 (036xxx).

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