$500 ready to spend

[Winter]

Ok great, thanks for all your help, I might end up going with the dillon I've got to check prices.

Thanks,
Floyd

[Boxerglocker]

Do you need to chamfer and debur after the dillon trims your brass?

Nope the RT1200B cuts super clean, I just tumble of the lube in 50/50 dry walnut and corncob which cleans off any minor burrs that may be left behind.
Here's a link to a thread at BE that a guy posted post trimm pics on
http://www.brianenos.com/forums/inde...owtopic=130102
I load Horandy FMFBT's and no chamfer is necessary. Gotta love it!

[markm]

I load Horandy FMFBT's and no chamfer is necessary. Gotta love it!

That sounds perfect.

I do have the possum hollow turd and a Wilson case trimmer. The possum is pretty bad but you can do a little volume. The Wilson is awesome, but volume sucks.

[Boxerglocker]

That sounds perfect.

I do have the possum hollow turd and a Wilson case trimmer. The possum is pretty bad but you can do a little volume. The Wilson is awesome, but volume sucks.

What machine do you load on?

[markm]

I have a 550b and a LNL classic single stage.

[mhanna91]

As someone who is pretty new to reloading as well, I would strongly suggest starting with a single stage press. I believe that you need to have a thorough understanding of the fundementals of reloading before moving to a progressive press, where there are up to 4 operations happening simultaniously (that is alot to keep track of for a beginner). Aside from being potentially dangerous if you are not paying great attention to detail, operating a progressive press as a beginner could also be a bit of a pain if you don't have a good grasp on setting up dies properly and things of that nature. I have been loading on a Lee Challenger for a couple years now and I have never once wished I had a progressive press. I measure each individual case length, cartrige overall length, and weigh each powder charge individually. I do all of my brass prep before hand (for example, I decap/resize, clean and if necessary trim, then prime) in large batches and put the primed, ready to load cases in gallon ice cream buckets. Once I am to this point, it only takes about an hour to charge and seat bullets in 100 cases. And that time includes measuring EVERYTHING to ensure my reloads will be safe. To me, the quality control you can get with a single stage press far outweighs the faster production of ammo you get with a progressive. It's not about cranking out ammo as fast as you can at first, it is about being safe and learning the ins and outs of the process. And if one day you do decide to move onto a progressive press, you can use your single stage for precision loads or maybe another application.

Try to relate this thinking to the recommendations given to new folks looking to purchase an AR. Start with the basics, learn the system (and its limits for your application), AND THEN decide what you need to add or change in order to suite your needs.

This is just my opinion and it is worth exactly what you paid for it.

Stay safe and good luck on your purchase!

Mark

[Boxerglocker]

I have a 550b and a LNL classic single stage.

The RT1200B will work just as well on the RL550B.

[Boxerglocker]

As someone who is pretty new to reloading as well, I would strongly suggest starting with a single stage press. I believe that you need to have a thorough understanding of the fundementals of reloading before moving to a progressive press, where there are up to 4 operations happening simultaniously (that is alot to keep track of for a beginner). Aside from being potentially dangerous if you are not paying great attention to detail, operating a progressive press as a beginner could also be a bit of a pain if you don't have a good grasp on setting up dies properly and things of that nature. I have been loading on a Lee Challenger for a couple years now and I have never once wished I had a progressive press. I measure each individual case length, cartrige overall length, and weigh each powder charge individually. I do all of my brass prep before hand (for example, I decap/resize, clean and if necessary trim, then prime) in large batches and put the primed, ready to load cases in gallon ice cream buckets. Once I am to this point, it only takes about an hour to charge and seat bullets in 100 cases. And that time includes measuring EVERYTHING to ensure my reloads will be safe. To me, the quality control you can get with a single stage press far outweighs the faster production of ammo you get with a progressive. It's not about cranking out ammo as fast as you can at first, it is about being safe and learning the ins and outs of the process. And if one day you do decide to move onto a progressive press, you can use your single stage for precision loads or maybe another application.
Lastly, I'll state as you did my advice is also free so take it or leave it. For me however reloading is merely a means of doing what I really want to do which is shoot allot in training and competition not spend hour upon hour loading rounds to shoot.

Try to relate this thinking to the recommendations given to new folks looking to purchase an AR. Start with the basics, learn the system (and its limits for your application), AND THEN decide what you need to add or change in order to suite your needs.

This is just my opinion and it is worth exactly what you paid for it.

Stay safe and good luck on your purchase!

Mark

Sorry, have to burst your bubble Mark. The reality I have learned and witnessed is in most cases using a single stage you'll actually have the more likely potential to miss something.
A LCT can be used just like a single stage but you have the advantage of higher production putting out one round ever 4 pulls. The round does not leave the case holder till completed. Same with a progressive once set up you just watch your powder drops and do a quality check every 50 or 100 rounds. I started on a LCT, moved to 2 SDB's and now a XL650 have well over 130K rounds loaded in 4 and a half years with zero issues. I load 2.5K a month in 9mm 500-700 of .223, have loaded .380 and .45 ACP and .40 S&W as well. Your statement regarding QC using a SS is IMO very misleading, it is not always the case. That depends on the individual and his/her aptitude for learning the processes and their personal attention to detail.

[chadbag]

Do you need to chamfer and debur after the dillon trims your brass?

No. No need to. A carbide blade movie at 5k-7k rpm makes a clean cut.

[chadbag]

As someone who is pretty new to reloading as well, I would strongly suggest starting with a single stage press. I believe that you need to have a thorough understanding of the fundementals of reloading before moving to a progressive press,

This is one of the biggest myths out there. A single stage press is no easier to learn on. It is really not. In fact it could be harder as you are screwing around with the press a lot more. And the disjointedness of the process on a single stage makes it harder to get the big picture of the overall process.

Treat your progressive like a single stage in terms of just running one case at a time through it.

where there are up to 4 operations happening simultaniously (that is alot to keep track of for a beginner). Aside from being potentially dangerous if you are not paying great attention to detail, operating a progressive press as a beginner could also be a bit of a pain if you don't have a good grasp on setting up dies properly and things of that nature.

Setting up dies on a progressive is not any harder than on a single stage. And if you use separate seating and crimp dies on a progressive, it is easier.

I have been loading on a Lee Challenger for a couple years now and I have never once wished I had a progressive press. I measure each individual case length, cartrige overall length, and weigh each powder charge individually. I do all of my brass prep before hand (for example, I decap/resize, clean and if necessary trim, then prime) in large batches and put the primed, ready to load cases in gallon ice cream buckets. Once I am to this point, it only takes about an hour to charge and seat bullets in 100 cases. And that time includes measuring EVERYTHING to ensure my reloads will be safe. To me, the quality control you can get with a single stage press far outweighs the faster production of ammo you get with a progressive. It's not about cranking out ammo as fast as you can at first, it is about being safe and learning the ins and outs of the process. And if one day you do decide to move onto a progressive press, you can use your single stage for precision loads or maybe another application.

Try to relate this thinking to the recommendations given to new folks looking to purchase an AR. Start with the basics, learn the system (and its limits for your application), AND THEN decide what you need to add or change in order to suite your needs.

This is just my opinion and it is worth exactly what you paid for it.

Stay safe and good luck on your purchase!

Mark