Blackhawk Serpa CQC holster

[jklaughrey]

I was at our indoor here locally and a couple of "younger" maybe 21-23 y/o were taking turns quick drawing from a Serpa. I noticed this as I walked to my lane. Decided rather than let them know this was an accident looking for a place to happen. I promptly exited, told the RO who was on that shift. He looks at me and slyly moves his look a like "members only" jacket to the side and displays... a Serpa. I shook my head, went to the counter, got a refund and then stated I wouldn't be renewing my annual membership.

Was a decent indoor, but the former owner died last month and the son sold it so he could "find himself". I think once word gets out business will decline and the only customers will be ninjas' in ACU's.

[J8127]

Seriously?

[5cary]

I shook my head, went to the counter, got a refund and then stated I wouldn't be renewing my annual membership.

You quit a range because someone was using a Serpa? Other than the "quick draw" (which most people like to practice) were they doing anything else unsafe?

If I ran from Serpas I'd have no where to shoot.

[jklaughrey]

You quit a range because someone was using a Serpa? Other than the "quick draw" (which most people like to practice) were they doing anything else unsafe?

If I ran from Serpas I'd have no where to shoot.

Yes, when a RO I have never seen before and don't know his background looks like a deer in headlights and basically dismisses my concerns for safety, esp. in regards to 2 kids playing Combat Carl grab ass jeopardizing my safety and others by passing a loaded firearm back and forth without regard. YES! My safety and business are best served elsewhere.

[5cary]

Combat Carl grab ass

Roger that. "Combat Carl grab ass" differs greatly from "taking turns quick drawing from a Serpa". If they were passing a loaded firearm back and forth then I would have left as well.

Keeping on subject here, at what point should you feel a piece of equipment is so unsafe that not only won't you use it, but you won't even stay on a range with someone else using it.

From your description above, can I assume that you would have left the range if they were using an ALS instead?

[jklaughrey]

Regardless of what holster they had, I would have left. The fact that I decided to cancel my membership was based on the RO I didn't know and his apparent apathy regarding safety concerns of patrons. But yeah, the Serpa holsters that ACU ninjas had and the RO was just ****ing icing that assured me that I needed to un-ass the area never to return.

[Sone]

Why would this info be needed?


C4

Because we are trying to do away with them as duty holsters and we need all the ammo we can get

[JSantoro]

FPF Training.

Larry Vickers.

Todd Greene, with a pass given to those whose agency issues it to them.

Gunsite, if I recall correctly, but it may just be that they find it undesirable due to clearly demonstrated lock-up problems (which is why I hate them), and is not specifically forbidden.

There's others, that's what jumps up immediately.

[monkeywrencher]

Because we are trying to do away with them as duty holsters and we need all the ammo we can get

I am in a similar position. We have Serpas approved for our off duty/low profile carry rigs. When I recently sent an e-mail informing members of the firearms committee a note stating we should look at reevaluting our approved holsters, a shit storm broke out! I was told that Serpas are fine and that if we listened to forum posters nothing would ever be approved.

Now we are finally getting our issued Tasers with....Serpa holsters. And I am going to beat the drum again. Any name credibility helps...

[monkeywrencher]

Because we are trying to do away with them as duty holsters and we need all the ammo we can get

I am in a similar position. We have Serpa's approved for our off duty/low profile carry rigs. When I recently sent an e-mail informing members of the firearms committee stating we should look at reevaluating our approved holsters, a shit storm broke out! I was told that Serpa's are fine and that if we listened to forum posters nothing would ever be approved.

Now we are finally getting our issued Tasers with....Serpa holsters. And I am going to beat the drum again. Any name credibility helps...