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    I forgot to ask in my other post, but didn't it have a really high trigger pull, like 12+ lbs or something like that...I can't remember for sure
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    I owned one for several years, even used it as a car gun for awhile.

    I liked the small size of the grip, and the compact size of the 18 round mags.

    Never found a holster for it outside of the bullshit gun show type generic nylon stuff.

    I hated the sights and the cross-bolt safety.

    I could live with the heel mag release, not a big deal.

    The take-down latch would get rather hot if you put many rounds through it at all.


    The trigger did in fact suck, and was worse than any DA revolver I have ever shot other than the Nagant M1895

    I liked how simple the parts and construction was. I think if it had been built with a semi pre-cocked striker like a Glock, thus giving a lighter/better trigger pull, it would have been a better pistol.

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    Good review, SteyrAUG.

    What turned me off about the trigger was reading Wiley Clapp's book where he reviewed about 50 9X19mm handguns and listed all the 25 yard groups with 6 different loads.

    The VP70 possessed some of the worst groups of all, which (surprise, surprise) was attributed to the trigger.

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    HK could have dominated the market with that gun if they would have spent more time thinking about it as a pistol that could be converted to a machinepistol rather than the opposite. All the elements of the modern pistol are there (other than the light rail, which they invented later).

    HK is still (obviously) a leading innovator, but they were really up to some wild stuff in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Of course, crazy crap like this drove them into the red, but look at all the cool toys!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Bell View Post
    HK could have dominated the market with that gun if they would have spent more time thinking about it as a pistol that could be converted to a machinepistol rather than the opposite. All the elements of the modern pistol are there (other than the light rail, which they invented later).

    HK is still (obviously) a leading innovator, but they were really up to some wild stuff in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Of course, crazy crap like this drove them into the red, but look at all the cool toys!

    Yup, those were the days when HK was being run by the same generation that was at Mauser during WWII and the spirit of innovation and No Compromise really held true.
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    God did you ever pic a good woman very nice gift. I asked my wife for an IPOD touch to run my ballistic software on for my 31st BDAY she said it was to much money and went out 2 weeks later and bought another horse for 5k your a lucky man. Im a horse owner
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICANHITHIMMAN View Post
    God did you ever pic a good woman very nice gift. I asked my wife for an IPOD touch to run my ballistic software on for my 31st BDAY she said it was to much money and went out 2 weeks later and bought another horse for 5k your a lucky man. Im a horse owner
    I'd name it Sarah Jessica Parker!
    If she can drop 5k on a damn horse but can't (won't) loosen the purse strings for an iPod for your birthday, you should at least get to name it!

    This only further supports my observation that horse people are weird!

    But, I digress...

    It's interesting how deep the lands & grooves are in the barrel of the VP70. Looking at the muzzle on mine (safely, not the Buford Tune way!), I've never seen more pronounced rifling...except maybe in barrels mounted on tanks or A-10s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halo2304 View Post
    I'd name it Sarah Jessica Parker!
    I've never seen more pronounced rifling...except maybe in barrels mounted on tanks or A-10s.
    I know you are kidding, but barrels on modern US tanks are smooth, not rifled. But if I wasn't a former tred hed I might have $5K to my name to spend on a horse... err... gun, I mean gun!

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    Oops, my bad! Could've sworn I saw a picture of a tank's muzzle that had, at least to my eyes, "rifling" that looked like a gear would engage.

    $5k would buy a hell of a Colt!
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    Quote Originally Posted by halo2304 View Post
    Oops, my bad! Could've sworn I saw a picture of a tank's muzzle that had, at least to my eyes, "rifling" that looked like a gear would engage.

    $5k would buy a hell of a Colt!
    Probably an older tank, back when they used rifled bores.

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