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Thread: 9 mm 124 gr testing

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    Doc, would you be able to post gel test results for 147gr Gold Dots (and possibly 180gr .40 Gold Dots) in this thread for easy comparison to the above 124(+P) GD results?

    The department I'm looking at hiring onto issues 147gr GD in 9mm and 180gr GD in .40 S&W, and I'm just kind of curious to know the specific numbers - I'd be comfortable with carrying either one as they are both recommended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocGKR View Post
    Ranger-T is generally good to go, the older SXT variants, not so much...
    Copy. I'll replace them with some real ranger Ts, or more than likely just more gold dots. If it ain't broke....

    I also might run them through my glocks for function test and then replace them with 147gr Ranger-Ts, as I figure if it will feed them, it will feed the Ranger Ts. I am not terribly worried about my Gen 3 Glocks feeding quality JHPs though... still first hand experience is better than blind faith.

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    9mm Speer 147 gr JHP Gold Dot (53619) fired from S&W 5906 at ave vel of 1010 f/s; 5 shot ave below:
    BG: Pen = 15.8”, RD = 0.53”, RL = 0.49”, RW = 147.2 gr
    4LD: Pen = 16.7”, RD = 0.53”, RL = 0.54”, RW = 146.2 gr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake'sDad View Post
    What's great is how many good choices there are today.

    Thanks to names like Fackler, Wolberg, McPherson, our own Dr. Roberts, and all the other IWBA guys, the ammo world is a very different place today then it was 30 years ago.
    You nailed it,sir. I well remember the days when we struggled to create more effective handgun loads. As I've said before,the young guys have it made now. Just pick a load from Doc's list and GO!
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    Thanks Doc, I was very interested to see the 124+P HST and GS Bonded rounds tested. Both appear to be good performers and I will consider them when it it time to order more ammo (when my current supply of 124+P Gold Dot gets low) as I still prefer 124+P in 9mm. For some reason the 124+P HST has been more readily avaiable locally in quantity, at a decent price, than the 147 HST. I didn't want to invest heavily in it until I saw some testing other than what the factory published.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocGKR View Post
    9mm Speer 147 gr JHP Gold Dot (53619) fired from S&W 5906 at ave vel of 1010 f/s; 5 shot ave below:
    BG: Pen = 15.8”, RD = 0.53”, RL = 0.49”, RW = 147.2 gr
    4LD: Pen = 16.7”, RD = 0.53”, RL = 0.54”, RW = 146.2 gr
    Hmm. That RD seems kinda low compared with all the other loads tested.

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    Thanks for sharing this great information Doc. Much appreciated.
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    vicious_cb: The 147 gr Gold Dot has never worked as well as their 124. The 147 gr GD test I posted above was from a few years ago and it was not a stellar lot. Nonetheless even ATK's own data shows the 147 gr Gold Dot to lag a bit behind the 124 +P GD:

    http://le.atk.com/pdf/GoldDotPoster.pdf
    http://le.atk.com/pdf/HSTInsertPoster.pdf

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    Doc, what 147gr load would you consider to have the best performance out of the bunch? I dont mine carrying a 124gr +P but the lower impulse of a 147gr makes follow up shots much easier.
    Last edited by vicious_cb; 09-05-11 at 15:32.

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    As always, I would pick the load that is most reliable and accurate in your pistol, as well as one that is readily available for a reasonable cost. Agencies here have had excellent success with the Federal HST 147 gr JHP (P9HST2) and Winchester Ranger-T 147 gr JHP (RA9T); others have reported good performance with the Federal Tactical 135 gr +P JHP (LE9T5) and Winchester 147 gr bonded JHP (RA9B/Q4364).

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