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    My experience has been that my MWS will hold MOA with certain hand loads. 175 SMK with 44.7 grains of Varget. While every once and a while I do a little better than MOA, 7/8" or so, it's not consistant. It will also swing the other way from time to time and go out to 1 1/2". I'm sure a lot of the variance has to do with me as a shooter. And yes I'm talking about ten shot groups and the 16" CL barrel.
    With mil surplus ammo it's not even close to that shooting groups around 3" plus.
    While the OTO's groups may be cherry picked I think they are totally plausable with the right shooter and ammo.
    As a messure of practicle accuracy I was able to make 3 out of 5 hits on golfballs at 140 yards in a sniper match last weekend with my MWS.
    I thought about getting a SS barrel for mine but with the accuracy I've been getting the only reason I can see for getting one would be to squeeze out a bit more velocity.
    My biggest mistake with the MWS was thinking of it as a run and gun type of rifle. Once I got that out of my head and put a bipod and powerful optic on it it really began to shine.

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    Those groups are def doable with the 16 Cl barrel.

    10 Shot group using 175 GR FGMM and this was a group when I first got the gun shot from a bench using a grip pod bipod after getting sighted in. I am trying to make it out in the near future to dial in some 175 gr SMK handloads. Optic used is a Ta55-A 5.5x ACOG. ETA: The two holes to the right on my target are not mine, I had a friend with me that day who was shooting all around my target.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    Oto, are those handloads? If so, you need to share!
    No sir, they are plane old Federal SMK's 168

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    OTO27,

    It sounds like your 1" measurements were to the outside edges. The proper way is measure is from center to center. Nice shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shootist~ View Post
    OTO27,

    It sounds like your 1" measurements were to the outside edges. The proper way is measure is from center to center. Nice shooting.
    No sir my measurements were done from center to center. Not sure if the settings you are using for the software are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTO27 View Post
    No sir my measurements were done from center to center. Not sure if the settings you are using for the software are correct.
    They were guessing at the width of the bull, which is a required input in the software. Maybe it's 7" instead of 8" or some such.

    Looking at the second target I estimate the outside size as approximately 5 full .308 diameters. So it's: 0.308 x (5-1) = 1.232" for est. center to center.

    My Mk 1 eyeball runs pretty close to your ruler.

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    Been running my mws alot lately getting ready for an upcoming match.

    All of these groups are with the 16" SS barrel and a shooter in need of more practice. Assume shooter error in any of these groups, especially the fliers as I am still working with this rifle.

    100yd 175smk load:


    100yd 178 amax load. For some reason these shoot just a hair right of my 175 load.


    600yd group, only five shots but I only took so much ammo for the day:


    Video from today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuVYa31fdno

    Target shot in the video. Far right shot is from a sighter round prior to the video.

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    I held back my comments when I first saw those results on the Hide hoping that you would post them up over here.

    That's outstanding shooting sir! I have officially hit defcon 5 on my MWS want meter and within 30days I should have it.

    Damn that's great stuff from a straight world beating rifle!

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    My 16 inch CL MWS is also shooting 1 inch , 5 shot groups. On Occasion, it will hold a half inch. But we are shooting Marks hand-loads rolled to concentric perfection with Lapua Brass and 168 / 175 SMK's.

    That may be my favorite gun. Buying a PRS stock for 18 SPR, if I really like it, I might get one for my LMT MWS.

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    M1A/OTO27:

    First of all, nice shooting!!! I like Trident am a few weeks away from buying a MWS (maybe an OBR) and in quite a few threads i have seen people mention that the 16" CL barrel is overgassed and has heavy recoil when compared to other semi 308's. So, when either of you two upgraded to the SS barrels did you notice any difference with the longer gas system? I'm planning to get the 18" SS.

    Also, would you guys put these SS barreled MWS's in the same tier accuracy wise as the OBR?

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