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    The J-frame is ridiculously better than the G26 for pocket carry. The autoloader than I have ever considered a real competitor is the Kahr Pm-9. But I finally sold off my Kahr and just carry my 442 with laser grips.
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    I know several guys who have gone back to the J frame after trying small pistols, including the LCPs and the Kahr PM9.

    A real issue for some was that when the gun was carried in a pocket and then deployed as it had been carried for several weeks they would get a first round stoppage. Tap-Roll/Rack/Bang would fix the problme, but it was a consistent issue.

    I have found that the J frames are far easier to get a shooting grip on when you are trying to draw from the pocket at speed.

    The J frames also make, IMHO, the best "get off me gun" in that they don't choke if you have a hard muzzle contact, and there is no slide to foul when clothing, arms and hands may be in the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpd223 View Post
    I know several guys who have gone back to the J frame after trying small pistols, including the LCPs and the Kahr PM9.

    A real issue for some was that when the gun was carried in a pocket and then deployed as it had been carried for several weeks they would get a first round stoppage. Tap-Roll/Rack/Bang would fix the problme, but it was a consistent issue.

    I have found that the J frames are far easier to get a shooting grip on when you are trying to draw from the pocket at speed.

    The J frames also make, IMHO, the best "get off me gun" in that they don't choke if you have a hard muzzle contact, and there is no slide to foul when clothing, arms and hands may be in the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tpd223 View Post
    I know several guys who have gone back to the J frame after trying small pistols, including the LCPs and the Kahr PM9.

    A real issue for some was that when the gun was carried in a pocket and then deployed as it had been carried for several weeks they would get a first round stoppage. Tap-Roll/Rack/Bang would fix the problme, but it was a consistent issue.

    I have found that the J frames are far easier to get a shooting grip on when you are trying to draw from the pocket at speed.

    The J frames also make, IMHO, the best "get off me gun" in that they don't choke if you have a hard muzzle contact, and there is no slide to foul when clothing, arms and hands may be in the way.
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    There is nothing nicer than a small frame revolver. A small frame frvolver is handy to have with you and are you trying to tell me guys that a 38 sp is not an effective round? How many of you guys been in a gun fight lately that you needed the more rounds of a semi auto?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveS View Post
    There is nothing nicer than a small frame revolver. A small frame frvolver is handy to have with you and are you trying to tell me guys that a 38 sp is not an effective round? How many of you guys been in a gun fight lately that you needed the more rounds of a semi auto?
    It is not hard to list gun fights where the greater capacity and faster reloads of a semi auto made the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskapopo View Post
    It is not hard to list gun fights where the greater capacity and faster reloads of a semi auto made the difference.
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    So start listing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RWK View Post
    So start listing...
    The 1986 Miami shoot out (FBI vs Platt Maddox) for starters. Two agents were killed while trying to reloading their empty revolvers. Their are hundreds of examples, I will leave it to you to find the rest. Your a big boy you should be able to find at least a few on your own with a little bit of google foo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RWK View Post
    So start listing...
    Go back and read Mas Ayoob's column in American Handgunner over the last two years. He has documented several recent shootings that involved lots of rounds or a reload to resolve the situation in favor of the good guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJK View Post
    Go back and read Mas Ayoob's column in American Handgunner over the last two years. He has documented several recent shootings that involved lots of rounds or a reload to resolve the situation in favor of the good guy.
    IMHO none of those would have been handled by a pocket pistol, be it a revolver or an auto.

    Seriously, 7 rounds of .380 isn't a huge capacity/capability difference between 5 rounds of .38special

    This is why we should carry real guns as often as we can. Pocket guns are for BUGs, or when we have to dress in sissy clothes and go to stuff like weddings and such.

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