Bufferless?

[Nightgunner]

I have been doing some reading and please let me know if I am understanding this. If I were to use a piston kit on an AR, with some work I could ditch the whole buffer, tube, and buffer spring assembly and use a side folding stock like a PDW? Similar to the piston/spring system on an AK or SKS.

[DeltaSierra]

No.

Unless you redesign the bolt, and a buffer system, there ain't no way that you are putting a folding stock on an AR type weapon.


I really am not sure where you have been researching, but there is no way that what you describe is even remotely possible.

If you want a folding stock (still don't know why anyone would go out of their way to have a folding stock...) get a rifle that was designed with a folding stock in mind.

Attempting to retro-fit a folding stock on a weapon that was intended to have a buffer tube attached to the rear of the receiver will end in disaster...

[Nightgunner]

No.

Unless you redesign the bolt, and a buffer system, there ain't no way that you are putting a folding stock on an AR type weapon.


I really am not sure where you have been researching, but there is no way that what you describe is even remotely possible.

If you want a folding stock (still don't know why anyone would go out of their way to have a folding stock...) get a rifle that was designed with a folding stock in mind.

Attempting to retro-fit a folding stock on a weapon that was intended to have a buffer tube attached to the rear of the receiver will end in disaster...

Actually I found what I remembered from a long time ago. Olympic Arms had the OA93 and another off shoot of that the name eludes me right now. Thanks to the Clinton AWB, the whole project pretty much got scrapped.

Now to see if I can find one of those old uppers and not spend a truck full of $$$.

[Kyohte]

Actually I found what I remembered from a long time ago. Olympic Arms had the OA93 and another off shoot of that the name eludes me right now. Thanks to the Clinton AWB, the whole project pretty much got scrapped.

Now to see if I can find one of those old uppers and not spend a truck full of $$$.

Why would you spend any money for an Olympic Arms rifle? Good advice has already been given. If you want a gun with a folding stock, buy a gun where the design allows for a folding stock (AK, SCAR, etc).

[The Knuckle]

There are a lot of options for a colapsable stock in 556 now. PARA and RRA have some.

HK has a new PDW with a new stock that looks bufferless. I think they have been able to balance a short BCG and just a spring in a tiny buffer tube.









There is also another smaller company doing the same thing but I will have to do some searching.

[Iraqgunz]

As far as I know nothing you have cited is actually available for purchase and none of them are proven. By proven I don't mean someone went to the range one time and it worked for 300 rounds.

I mean proven as in the system has had thousands and thousands of rounds trhough it over time and all the kinks worked out.

As others have mentioned, if you want a folding system get something designed to use it.

There are a lot of options for a colapsable stock in 556 now. PARA and RRA have some.

HK has a new PDW with a new stock that looks bufferless. I think they have been able to balance a short BCG and just a spring in a tiny buffer tube.









There is also another smaller company doing the same thing but I will have to do some searching.

[Dionysusigma]

Isn't the KAC PDW a bufferless design as well?

[munch520]

Hmmm..wondering whatever happened to wanting to build, create, or have something "Just Because". Folks have been defending themselves from anti gunners for so long they feel everything must be justifiable.

Pretty sad display.

These are tools and are thus improved out of necessity. This isn't arts and crafts; companies don't get creativity points.

[5pins]

I guess a lot of people here have a hard time understanding why people keep trying turning the AR into something it’s not. If you want a folding stock piston driven rifle then just get a SCARS, or something like it. What is the point of cobbling together a bunch parts just to make the AR not an AR.

[MrSmitty]

I came across the Para TTR in a magazine a few months ago. They had a good review on it, just as every magazine has on every product in it. I wouldn't buy one.