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    Glock Extractor Issues Gen 4 - Gen 3

    Proud owner of Gen 3 17,19,26 and a 21sf.

    I couldn't help but stumble upon an issue today while reading some threads online. Perhaps I have been under a rock, because I had not heard of this internet "glock extractor mania" until today.

    The opinions and expertise found on the resource of M4carbine.net is where I believe the rumors can be boiled away and the facts brought out.

    The issue is that supposedly many 2010-2011 glocks, including Gen 3's were issued or shipped with extractors that are different from Gen 3's from 2009 and earlier.

    see photos on this thread, page (4) especially:
    http://www.firearmstrainingandtactic...?t=1546&page=4

    My questions are:

    What is the story really? Is this internet pajama ninja dilirium?

    Did glock change the extractors?

    What is the Gen 4 concave topped extractor pictured on the above thread? Page (4)

    Could this all be poor pistol marksmanship and limp wristing with blaming the gun?

    Anyway, I hope we can get some relevent answers, rational discussion and hard evidence (pictures are nice).

    I own glocks, shoot glocks and also own and shoot 1911s. THIS IS NOT A GUN BASHING THREAD.

    Please refrain from turning this into an ego fest. Facts only and 1st person experiences. Thank you and lets get to the bottom of this.


    Added on 2/14/2012:

    As the creator of this thread I ask at this point that any and all threads about YOUR gun include the following information:

    - First 3 letters of serial # and or test fire date from factory.
    - Generation of Glock (3 or 4)
    - Number of rounds TOTAL fired through pistol
    - Any changes made to pistol by you or armorer or Glock (parts etc.)
    - Issues you are having.
    - Ammo used during issues (manufacturer, weight etc.)
    Last edited by TacMedic556; 02-14-12 at 21:17. Reason: page number insertion. addition.

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    How do your glocks shoot? How have they been working? How many rounds have you put through your g17 and g19?

    I ask these questions because if your glocks are performing well, it does not matter what might be happening elsewere.

    I have had a couple of gen 3 g19s with the dip extractor that have performed absolutely great.

    Problems with late model gen 3's have been rare. Things tend to get blown out of proportion on the internet and forums. People think the sky is falling and start looking to find issues.

    If your glocks are running great,keep on.

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    I shoot winchester Olin Nato stamped 124 grain ball ammo. I buy in bulk.

    For defensive carry I have shot and carry Speer gold dot. I have also burned through some 140+ grain stuff.

    I have never had so much as a burp, FTE, FTF, nothing. I have done rapid fire, shooting on the move, drills, mag changes, shoot until slide lock back etc. No hickups. I believe mine are fine. My extractors don't have this supposed "curve" or "concave" depression on them either.

    I hope we get more information from others.

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    Speaking as one of the contributors to the thread you cite, I can assure you there are no "ninjas" posting in the thread. Did you think the pictures and firsthand experiences related there were fabricated?

    Glock extractors didn't use to do these things. As I relate on my blog, I had to polish mine to make it drop in without binding slightly in my slide.

    Quote Originally Posted by TacMedic556 View Post
    Proud owner of Gen 3 17,19,26 and a 21sf.

    I couldn't help but stumble upon an issue today while reading some threads online. Perhaps I have been under a rock, because I had not heard of this internet "glock extractor mania" until today.

    The opinions and expertise found on the resource of M4carbine.net is where I believe the rumors can be boiled away and the facts brought out.

    The issue is that supposedly many 2010-2011 glocks, including Gen 3's were issued or shipped with extractors that are different from Gen 3's from 2009 and earlier.

    see photos on this thread, page (4) especially:
    http://www.firearmstrainingandtactic...?t=1546&page=4

    My questions are:

    What is the story really? Is this internet pajama ninja dilirium?

    Did glock change the extractors?

    What is the Gen 4 concave topped extractor pictured on the above thread? Page (4)

    Could this all be poor pistol marksmanship and limp wristing with blaming the gun?

    Anyway, I hope we can get some relevent answers, rational discussion and hard evidence (pictures are nice).

    I own glocks, shoot glocks and also own and shoot 1911s. THIS IS NOT A GUN BASHING THREAD.

    Please refrain from turning this into an ego fest. Facts only and 1st person experiences. Thank you and lets get to the bottom of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TacMedic556 View Post
    Could this all be poor pistol marksmanship and limp wristing with blaming the gun?
    I can't say that none of them are user induced, but I can say that there are some that are definately NOT user induced.
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    If your guns work - then good.

    I have 2 guns with the new "dip' extractor and, like you, I have not had a single problem with them.

    It's just another thing to keep your eyes peeled for.

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    Limp wristing is a bullshit excuse perpetuated by 1911 owners to mask inaedquacies in their weapons. Most of the people in the thread TacMedic linked to are graduates of the Vickers Advanced Tactical Pistol class. They were NOT limp wristing.

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