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    Any info on Ares Defense GSR-35 piston conversion?

    Does anyone have any info about this kit? I've called, left message, emailed them and I can't get anything. I'd like to try one. I may have to save my pennies and just get a LWRC.

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    I have had one for about a year or so, what would you like to know?

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    Not my thread but I'll chime in.
    Is it reliable? Is it sturdy? What are your likes/dislikes with the system? Would you buy it again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacekeeper1408 View Post
    I've called, left message, emailed them and I can't get anything.
    That is my first clue that I probably would have difficulty solving any problems if they don't respond to inquiries about their product, I doubt their customer service would be much better after you bought it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaeger View Post
    Not my thread but I'll chime in.
    Is it reliable? Is it sturdy? What are your likes/dislikes with the system? Would you buy it again?
    100% reliable through thousands of rounds. sturdy and solid after 1 year, no parts breakage. I run it on a Bushmaster 14.5 Full-Auto Gun. Gun gets hard use, 1000+ rounds in a few hours if I am on a roll. Lots of mag dumps, almost no semi-auto use at all. I lend it to others at shoots, they shoot who knows what through it. Lots of C-Mag Dumps, Silencers, etc.

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    Easy install/uninstall. Other kits require MFG to install, or are not portable. If this did not work, I could easy return to regular gas system.

    Does what I want it to do - not dump gas crud into upper receiver. No melted gas tubes from C-Mag dumps, Silencer use, no broken bolts, stake problems, gas rings or other problems.

    After 1000 rounds, it is still clean.

    There is really nothing I dislike about it, though at $400, it would be nice if it was a little less costly.

    Would I get it again? Sure, but I really do not see a need for it unless it is going on a F/A gun. I do not run it on my LMT/MRP for example (SPR config), nor do I plan to buy one for any of my Semi-Auto guns. I would certainly buy it again though for F/A use.

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    I'd probably wait it out for the Primary Weapons conversion kit. So far they appear to really have their head in the game, and being able to work under many rails is a big plus. I haven't seen many complaints about the ARES system though.

    Then again, with things such as the Masada, SCAR, and the 416 coming along in 2008 possibly, it's going to be a rough call for those wanting something new and "improved".
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    If HK does bring the 416 to the civilian market, then there is no doubt that is what I will get, but should I count on it becoming available?

    I am interested in the Ares because it is a short stroke piston and seems to be an easy upgrade, but if they won't take my money then it might as well not exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacekeeper1408 View Post
    but if they won't take my money then it might as well not exist.
    No they do not take your money, you will have to give it to a dealer. I think I got mine from Dennys.

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    Have a link? Do you know what the LEO price is? The brochure says they offer a significant discount to LE and active military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacekeeper1408 View Post
    If HK does bring the 416 to the civilian market, then there is no doubt that is what I will get, but should I count on it becoming available?

    I am interested in the Ares because it is a short stroke piston and seems to be an easy upgrade, but if they won't take my money then it might as well not exist.
    Good point.

    Denny's Guns.
    https://0186cdf.netsolstores.com/ind...ROD&ProdID=259

    PK Firearms.
    http://pkfirearms.com/store/get_item...type=0&term=94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacekeeper1408 View Post
    Have a link? Do you know what the LEO price is? The brochure says they offer a significant discount to LE and active military.
    This is where I got mine from. I think "significant discount" is a volume purchase not an individual purchase. If you find out, please post here...

    https://0186cdf.netsolstores.com/ind...anfID=3&Page=1

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    You guys are awesome. Ok, PK Firearms has 2 diff models. One for 14.5-16" barrels and one for under 14.5". GTS only has one model, but doesn't say which it is for.

    Also, is the included handguard the only one that can be used?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacekeeper1408 View Post
    You guys are awesome. Ok, PK Firearms has 2 diff models. One for 14.5-16" barrels and one for under 14.5". GTS only has one model, but doesn't say which it is for.

    Also, is the included handguard the only one that can be used?
    I only use the supplied HG, but GTS was working on getting a Surefire HG to work. You may have to talk to him to get the latest.

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    It's on its way. I'll let you know how it works out. I also ordered a couple bandolier kits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacekeeper1408 View Post
    You guys are awesome. Ok, PK Firearms has 2 diff models. One for 14.5-16" barrels and one for under 14.5". GTS only has one model, but doesn't say which it is for.
    It's likely just an ad for both. You'll probably have to specify which kit you want when you order.

    As for rails, I guess it depends on how willing you are with a dremel. As Renegade said, Denny got the Surefire's to work, and they use a lower out of spec top rail. I'd imagine the Midwest free floats, Troy, and Daniel Defense Omega rails would be likely suspects as well. With the Ares kit you have to have two piece hand guards.

    Your best bet is to talk to one of the sellers of the kit though, as all I have is a theory where as they likely know what does and doesn't work and what modifications it requires.
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    Renegade, why wouldn't you want it for your semi auto guns if it works so well in full auto? Is it just a cost versus benefit kind of thing?

    I'm wondering how the Vltor CASV-EL rail would work out with the Ares. The bottom is easily removable, the top looks like more work. It might not be practical.

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    The Vltor CASV-EL rail could be modified to fit with the Ares unit. I modified a few CASV-EL rails for POF uppers, and they work well. Looking at both, the POF is a bulkier unit.

    The problem is that the POF is disassembles from the front, so the CASV-EL rail never needs removed. The Ares would require the top rail to be removed for cleaning, and that's not really practical unless you want to completely disassemble the upper every time you clean.

    I've never measured one, but the Daniel Defense Omega may work with the Ares (with or without modification). It free-floats, and would disassemble a whole lot easier than the Vltor.

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    I wonder how often the piston assembly needs to be cleaned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaeger View Post
    I wonder how often the piston assembly needs to be cleaned.
    Don't know, but I'm sure it's more often than what you would want to remove the Vltor CASV-EL rail!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaeger View Post
    Renegade, why wouldn't you want it for your semi auto guns if it works so well in full auto? Is it just a cost versus benefit kind of thing?
    The problems I was looking to solve (massive crud in upper, lots of heat, melted gas tubes from C-Mag dumps, Silencer use, no broken bolts, stake problems, gas rings or other problems.) I do not have in my semi-auto guns. For instance, my LMT/MRP is in an SPR config, and it is lucky if it sees 20-30 rounds on a typical shooting day. Not enough to cause those problems.

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