Any info on Ares Defense GSR-35 piston conversion?

[Peacekeeper1408]

That piston system is beckoning to me. If Ares ever calls me back with their LEO discount info I'll try one on the Bushy.

I emailed them about 2 months ago, then I called them last week and sent another email. Still nothing back. I just gave up on them and bought one from PKFirearms.com

[Jaeger]

Yeah, I get the impression I shouldn't be holding my breath. That makes me wonder how there their customer service is.

[Robb Jensen]

I had one, this happened to it after shooting a little full-auto:




The gas tube roll pin walked on it and allowed the spigot to move rearward which then bent the op rod. ARES replaced the op rod, and spigot. I later traded it off to a friend and installed it on his upper (a 16" LMT upper). I did a 'shave' job on his FSB and threaded the gas tube roll pin hole for a 4-40 set screw. In had to open up the hole on the spigot a little to allow the screw to pass through it. I used Rocksett on the set screw to hold it together. He had another guy on this website 'modificate' a 12" Troy rail to fit over the system. It's working fine for him now and he shoots it with a suppressor as well. The system was very controllable on full auto with an H buffer and a Primary Weapons DNTC comp/brake. So controllable that I could keep all the round on a IPSC/IDPA target size group at 150yds all the way through the magazine on auto.

[Jaeger]

I assume they returned your call? Or was there a separate customer service #?

[_DR]

Does anyone think putting a G35 kit on a lightweight barrel profile would be an issue?

[Peacekeeper1408]

Does anyone think putting a G35 kit on a lightweight barrel profile would be an issue?

From what I can gather it won't cause any problems. I don't believe it will fit anything over .875" though.

[Peacekeeper1408]

I received my conversion today and am in the process of installing it right now. Had to remove a little carbon first. Mine came with a little spring that goes in before the spigot to take the shock off the roll pin.

[Robb Jensen]

I received my conversion today and am in the process of installing it right now. Had to remove a little carbon first. Mine came with a little spring that goes in before the spigot to take the shock off the roll pin.

My early kit had that too. It didn't work.

[Failure2Stop]

The system was very controllable on full auto with an H buffer and a Primary Weapons DNTC comp/brake. So controllable that I could keep all the round on a IPSC/IDPA target size group at 150yds all the way through the magazine on auto.

Is it more likely that the performance of the system is due to the DNTC and H-buffer or the op system?

The LWRC carbines that I tried seemed to have a sharper initial recoil than DI guns of similar length (14.5/16"), whereas the 416 seemed to have a smoother recoil impulse.

A 30 round burst on an IPSC target at 150 is damn good, and I doubt that I could do the same with any .mil configured gun. I have put 28 on an E-silhouette at 100 yards in FA, but only after a few attempts, and I doubt that I could do it on demand. The DTNC seems to be an excellent FH/MB, and some pistons seems to smooth out the recoil impulse; so in your opinion what most contributed to the controllability of the system?

[Robb Jensen]

Is it more likely that the performance of the system is due to the DNTC and H-buffer or the op system?

The LWRC carbines that I tried seemed to have a sharper initial recoil than DI guns of similar length (14.5/16"), whereas the 416 seemed to have a smoother recoil impulse.

A 30 round burst on an IPSC target at 150 is damn good, and I doubt that I could do the same with any .mil configured gun. I have put 28 on an E-silhouette at 100 yards in FA, but only after a few attempts, and I doubt that I could do it on demand. The DTNC seems to be an excellent FH/MB, and some pistons seems to smooth out the recoil impulse; so in your opinion what most contributed to the controllability of the system?

It's the combination of the DNTC, H-buffer and the slow cyclic rate of the ARES (this was a 11.5" barrel). I think it's so controllable mostly because of the DNTC which is really at home on a full auto gun. If the DNTC where anymore efficient it would cause the muzzle to dive in full-auto. We did get to compare this setup against a 10.5" full auto LMT upper (w/A2 flash hider) on the same registered auto lower and the LMT would walk right off the target and it's cyclic rate was noticeably faster.