ANYONE aware of a "wait list" for the Tavor-21...?
I want to add my name...IMMEDIATELY!
WHEN IS THIS COMING!!!!
Israel needs more funds for the coming war. I am willing to help!
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I really wanna see one up close! Seems like it will be a great seller. Funny I was in Israel for a month and expected to see one but all I saw were M4's on everyone's back.
Just a sneak peak while you wait... This is one of the first-generation Tavors released
in Canada with a shorter picatinny rail and the 15" IWI factory CTAR barrel.
Considering the fact that the Tavor developement and manufacture was funded in no small part by by American taxpayer dollars... why shouldnt we expect a small consideration in form of a discount?
I know that the details of the Larue OBR, such as the machining , the monolithic rail, the finish options, the incomparable Larue warranty service, top notch factory mags.... plus the Larue OBR will out perform the DPMS SASS in the hands of a person who has the skills and training to exploit the advantges ( I am sadly not one of these people). I also have no doubt that the Larue will prove more durable and reliable in extreme situations. So to sum it up I know that the DPMS SASS with about $500 in mods will never equal the quality of the OBR.. but I would never really feel the difference, certainly not enough to justify about $1k extra. Again this is personally speaking, I am in no way disparaging the people who have purchased a weapon like the Larue OBR, it is undoubtedly a superior crafted,performing and beautiful weapon ( I wish I could bring myself to buy one).
As far as the Tavor being developed in part with U.S taxpayer funds..The Israeli Weapons Industries was part of Israeli Military Industries which was funded in part by the 3 billion dollars a year the U.S government gives the state of Israel every year for the past like 30 years. IWI did not become a private company until 2005 and the Tavor has been a complete weapon long before that.
I know that the 3 billion a year is not directly spent on research and development but its logical to conclude that 3 billion in aid coming in frees up the same amount for other purposes. So in conclusion, yes I do believe that U.S taxpayer funds were used directly or indirectly to fund the development of the Tavor line.
Do I believe that we as Americans will get a discount because of it? No I do not , that was tongue in cheek.
(if the Tavor is under 1800 dollars, I will buy one... if only to mount this damned IWI M.A.R.S optic I bought on a whim for $400 bucks)
Last edited by signkutter; 09-30-12 at 12:14.
...Look how far the info/ production/ prototypes & now a IWI factory in the states, at the old Charles Daly location, currently manufacturing Tavor's for the release (that keeps getting pushed back) but at least there are multiple functioning production Tavor TAR-21's, like the one at the Bullpup Shoot... Who would have ever thought there would have ever been a IWI factory in the states?! The Tavor has come a long way since all the years of false hope of it coming to the states, for years... NOW it's finally a reality!
But WTF is this ugly prototype of a "Tavor"? It looks like a combination of a Tavor 21-M forend mixed with grip/ stock of a FNH F2000 or Kel Tech RFB. & it has a standard barrel, it's not threaded for muzzle brakes or flash hiders... If THAT was the Tavor that we we're going to get in the states, I'd DEFINITELY pass.
Last edited by Hungarian_Legionnaire; 10-09-12 at 16:54.
Since that's a pic of Angela Barrett out of the wayback machine...and not Michael Kassnar...you've got old news bro.
Check the video from the shoot done by MAC for what to expect visually...or the SHOT '12 images.
My comment RE: the photo from the Barrett booth @ SHOT 02', was simply a joke as to how ugly of a "Tavor" the states would have ended up with had it not fallen through, thankfully... Because I post a picture as a joke & mention in my comment:
Last edited by Hungarian_Legionnaire; 10-09-12 at 19:26.
lighten up francis
while I'm not gonna post my DD214 or tell you who my cool guy friends are I think it looks kind of cool.
and I'm still trying to figure out the joke but then again I never got the whole Jerry Lewis thing either.
I'm seriously thinking of getting one of these when they come out, but I'll wait and see the reviews from the first batch before commiting.
Uh...OK...might I suggest decaf bro...
...and if I took it that you had bad info, chances are others did to...so your "joke" didn't land on target...
you're back in the states my man.....drink a warm glass of milk and buy a kitten or something...you're def wound a little tight!! IMO......
" In War, Strife, and Acts of Bravery, it's always the strong one's that get taken from the GENE POOL......and we wonder why society is getting weaker!!!" - by me
...Also I didn't tell who my "cool guy friends are", as if I'm special for befriending someone, I simply said I was friends with the person "Kafir" mentioned, so of course I would not have intel on the Tavor from 2002.
& you should DEFIANTLY get the Tavor, if you even like bullpups a little, you will love this one.