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Unread 03-20-11, 08:43
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Grams/Ounces.......

Magpul Pmag- 30 146 5.15
Magpul Pmag- 20 100 3.53
GI mag- 30 round 112 3.95
Lancer L5 - 20 rd 97 3.42
Lancer L5 - 30 rd 119 4.20
Lancer L5AWM - 30 rd 124 4.37
Tango Down ARC - 30 rd 149 5.26
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Unread 03-20-11, 08:47
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Yes but with something like a Pmag for example you don't need to do this. Thats the advantage of a true 30 rnd capacity design.

Anyone use these new mags with 5.45?
I never said that Pmags wouldn't accept 30 rounds. I said its a good practice to download ALL MAGAZINES by one round. Ideally you want to be able to push the last round of the magazine down below the lips... This will reduce the risk of malfunctions created by magazines.

Two very wise men recommend this and because they have far greater experience than I do, I listen...

I don't want to take away from Grants thread any further so we can take it to PM, or a different thread if you feel the need to discuss it further.
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Unread 03-20-11, 11:37
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I have yet to try a Lancer mag but Mike Pannone has been suggesting them to me for the past six months. He was involved in testing them and gives them his highest praise.

FYI: I have several lowers that require P-Mags to be down loaded to 28 rounds.
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Does this new mag have true 30 rnd capability? Ie. being able to easily seat the mag on a closed bolt with 30 rnds in it?
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Its generally a better practice to simply down load by one on any bottom feeders... Will greatly reduce your risk of magazine malfunctions.
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Yes but with something like a Pmag for example you don't need to do this. Thats the advantage of a true 30 rnd capacity design.
I am of the opinion that there are no magazine offerings currently available that will reliably load 30rds and seat positively beneath a closed bolt, across their production. This includes PMags, Lancers, ARC mags, and many others. I've seen and owned examples of each that will, and some will do so more consistently than others (ARCs), but not enough that I'd call any of them a true 30rd magazine.

They're good mags, and they have 30rds of capacity, but they shouldn't necessarily be used as 30rd mags.
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Hogg thanks for the weights, very helpful. I may have to pick up a few of these. I'm interested in the fact that they're a little lighter than Pmags and that they have aluminum feedlips. I've had one or two Pmags get cracked feed lips in really cold weather. The new Lancers look like they may hold up better.
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Unread 03-20-11, 16:07
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Hogg thanks for the weights, very helpful. I may have to pick up a few of these. I'm interested in the fact that they're a little lighter than Pmags and that they have aluminum feedlips. I've had one or two Pmags get cracked feed lips in really cold weather. The new Lancers look like they may hold up better.
They actually have steel feedlips, not aluminum.
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Unread 03-20-11, 16:21
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Got a couple of these from LAV yesterday and plan on beating them up.

Pretty promising, if the work as well as the originals with these new features they'll be great mags.
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They actually have steel feedlips, not aluminum.
Even better
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just ordered a couple of these from G&R along with a couple other things...I'll see how I like these and I will probably end up ordering more.
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Yes but with something like a Pmag for example you don't need to do this. Thats the advantage of a true 30 rnd capacity design.
While that may be true, non other than the dynamic duo (Costa and Haley) said in a class that they also load PMAGs at 28.

(Having said that, I usually load my PMAGs at 30, at least in practice, as I don't count the rounds and load until it is "full")
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Yes but with something like a Pmag for example you don't need to do this. Thats the advantage of a true 30 rnd capacity design.

Anyone use these new mags with 5.45?
The issue with P mags is you can load 31 into them after the spring gets a little old making it impossible to get them into the gun with the bolt closed. I always load the mag full and strip two rounds out.
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I love my L5 mags but $18.99 for the AWM seems a bit expensive to me.
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I love my L5 mags but $18.99 for the AWM seems a bit expensive to me.

Buy them in bulk (as they are cheaper).


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20 Rounders?

When do you think you will get the 20 round magazines in stock? I like 20 round mags, but have had problems with polymer 20 round magazines before. I hope Lancer makes a good 20 round magazine so I can get a good stock of nice lower profile mags.
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Lancer Lowers are in stock!






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It's great to finally start seeing these in stock again. I couldn't find one locally for ages. If I'd known you had them I probably would have ordered one a long time ago. I think the L15 lowers at $209 are a no brainer especially now that they're forged and come with an AWM mag.
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Unread 11-23-12, 16:46
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It's great to finally start seeing these in stock again. I couldn't find one locally for ages. If I'd known you had them I probably would have ordered one a long time ago. I think the L15 lowers at $209 are a no brainer especially now that they're forged and come with an AWM mag.
Agree. This is one of my favorite lowers and the price is fantastic.


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