G19 USPSA

[Shokr21]

got a timer on my droid, haven't tried it out yet, I suppose now's a good a time as any.

Thanks for the heads up on the 17 possibly pointing high. I believe I'll just aim the same way I do with the 19 poa/poi, as that obviously makes the most sense to me. I know I might like the 17, I just don't know that I'll like it enough to justify buying it over the 19.

Again thanks again fellas.

[Mike_Hughes]

I switched to a stock Glock 19 to shoot Production Class in USPSA. The short snappy slide has given me wicked control pairs. I see no advantage of the longer sight radius.

Also leaving trigger stock. Still getting .17s splits up close and with longer shots I prep the trigger anyhow while acquiring sight picture-alignment. But training with a 12lbs trigger break SIRT so trigger finger is getting strong and neurally isolated.

[Failure2Stop]

Originally Posted by Mike_Hughes

I switched to a stock Glock 19 to shoot Production Class in USPSA.

Any thoughts on the reload?
Some find the short(ish) magazine and grip to make reloads a bit harder, what's your take on it?

[Magsz]

Originally Posted by Failure2Stop

Any thoughts on the reload?
Some find the short(ish) magazine and grip to make reloads a bit harder, what's your take on it?

Mike isnt human so his opinion doesnt count...damned androids...

Im not Mike so pardon me for opining on the subject but i find that the larger magwells allow more "slop" in your technique, just like adding a magwell or funnel to a limited gun. You can get away with more imprecise movements.

Truth be told, just like with a lady, you never want to hear "is it in yet?". You're either in, or you're not whether its a G19 or a G17.

I still prefer my G17 as i havent achieved android status yet with my technique so the G17 affords me a greater range of forgiveness when it comes to sloppiness.

Mike, what is your take on this?

[CC556]

After moving away from my M&P Pro and before moving to my CZ SP-01 Shadow for USPSA I did shoot my G19 in one match. I didn't have any problems with the reloads even with the relatively short mags and short grip. Actually, I shot better with my G19 than I ever shot with my M&P Pro.

[Shokr21]

I picked up a g17 with a SAD prefix in May for USPSA.

949 error free rounds to date. I'm pretty happy with it, and have even toyed with getting another one for carry as the little lady has decided the 19 fits her pretty good.

I know my fundamentals need a lot of work. But this summer all I'm doing is taking two summer courses through ISU = a lot of dry fire and mag change practices.

[Mike_Hughes]

Originally Posted by Magsz

Mike isnt human so his opinion doesnt count...damned androids...

Im not Mike so pardon me for opining on the subject but i find that the larger magwells allow more "slop" in your technique, just like adding a magwell or funnel to a limited gun. You can get away with more imprecise movements.

Truth be told, just like with a lady, you never want to hear "is it in yet?". You're either in, or you're not whether its a G19 or a G17.

I still prefer my G17 as i havent achieved android status yet with my technique so the G17 affords me a greater range of forgiveness when it comes to sloppiness.

Mike, what is your take on this?

Ha,
Well I do relax my lower grip a bit to hit a reload so I don't pinch my lower palm. I reload with 17 round mags because I carry 17 rnd mags for concealed carry anyhow. First mag is a standard 15 rounder. I just have awareness of support hand forfinger bringing to strong hand pinky at the second knuckle, just did a quick video on this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GrJ4NuLyrU concept. I made custom SIRT where I cut off the handle so it is the same length and angle as the G19. When I say "custom" I only mean I overlayed the G19 on the SIRT, chalked a baseline, took my reciprocating saw and did a crude cut, wolla.
Honestly did not find much different between G19 grip and a G17.
I agree whole hearteldy above, I think we need to learn from the era of the 80s where single stacks were the only game in town, lets not let magwells etc be a crutch for our lack of precision. It should always be in and she, I mean the gun, should not need to be a slut, I mean need to have a huge magwell. ha

Topic Change: Slide length
Big thing on G19 is that snappy slide, I have some high speed video of a 5" M&P and the G34 and that slide is like a tuning fork sticking way out there. I personally like the short snappy slide for tight shots in a rapid shot drill.

[TheBelly]

I used a Gen4 G19 for a couple of competitions. It's my wife's carry gun! I then moved to a Gen4 G17 that I shot in Limited Minor. It has now become my back-up competition gun.

NOW I shoot a Gen3 G34. It's easier to make a Gen3 a race-rocket gun for the limited minor class. If I do my part, I shouldn't drop any points... Unfortunately I'm not THAT good yet.

[samuse]

Originally Posted by Failure2Stop

Any thoughts on the reload?
Some find the short(ish) magazine and grip to make reloads a bit harder, what's your take on it?

I'm not the OP but I've shot a 19 quite a bit in competition and training.

My hands are about on the small end of average.

In all my years of very aggressive mag changes, I pinched my pinky one time. And it hurt. Bad. I think I peed a little. I had a blood blister for about a month.

[Nemecsek]

I can shoot all my Glocks equally accutate. Sometimes, I will shoot my 26 more accurate than my 17 and 34. The trigger and the contro of it is 90% of accuracy work. And its all the same between the models.

Now, when competing USPSA, quick reloads and gun handling are critical. So this rules out the 26 and the 19 for me. I have shot the 26and the 19 in Limited (minor) and won!! But, a rare fluke is not going to get me shooting my 26 at the next State match. I cannot do 1 second realoads with the smaller frames. Not consistently, hands sweaty, nervous, etc...

Now with GSSF (firing from a low ready) and IDPA (with the retarded tactical reloads with retention) I would not feel as handicapped with a 19 or 26, assuming I practiced the draw enough to be natural.

If I were you, I would get a 17 and get the same sights and trigger as your carry 19. If I had to cut back to only two guns (yikes) I would have either have 2 model 19's or a 17 and a 26... If I could only have one gun (gasp) I'd probably get a 19.