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Well thanks......uhhhh........Dave
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Definitely not the responses I would have expected to the op. Anyway, love the sign, funny as hell and still gets the point across. Remember good fences make great neighbors.
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Well thanks......uhhhh........Dave
Yeah, sorry. Little late on the draw. But hals1 is right on the mark as that is where I purchased my signs. Kinda pricey but they are heavy gauge and appear to be quite sturdy.
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Wow. They are kinda pricey.

I was thinking I could use a half dozen or so but, I may have to rethink that.

Really nice though.
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I had a neighbor throw some construction debris on my 1-1/2 residential acre, I threw it back. Someone killed and butchered a deer, I sent out a letter to all my immediate neighbors asking them to tell me who done it and if not pass a message along to him. The message was a stern warning. I also called the Wildlife officer who made it known that killing deer in a residential neighborhood would not be tolerated. My neighbors range from good folks to assholes. With the above exceptions, I manage to get along with all of them. I think I would introduce myself, speak a bit of my plans and hope for the best.
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I had a neighbor throw some construction debris on my 1-1/2 residential acre, I threw it back.

I would have contacted the Florida DEP and let them cite him for creating an unpermitted dump. Then he would have cleaned it up and paid to have it disposed at the landfill.
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This with a few strategically placed small piles of freshly overturned soil behind it.
Now that's funny.

If it were me, I'd meet with the neighbors and ask that they check with me before they come on my land. The answer could be a Yes for hunting or cutting some wood, as long as they ask me and let me know what they want to do. Just ask me first please.

I'd also put up simple posted signs.
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All of my "No Trespassing" signs got stolen a few days after I put them up.

I just make sure my 4-wire barbed wire fence stays intact now.
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I would have contacted the Florida DEP and let them cite him for creating an unpermitted dump. Then he would have cleaned it up and paid to have it disposed at the landfill.
It was about a wheelbarrow full and you have to prove it......

I think it was his son(s) who killed the deer. That was a lot more disturbing. Shot with a rifle in a residential neighborhood. If I happened to go outside when they were butchering it there would have been a big, big problem. If I catch an armed man on my residential property, there is gonna be a problem.....

I fired a yard man a couple of years ago. He was working in the next door neighbor's yard, I called him on his cell and told him he was fired and to come get his last money. He made sure to bring the potato rake he was using, just in case I guess. As he was leaving I told him if he ever brought another weapon on my property he would be leaving with the weapon stuck up his ass.
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OP, obviously you do not live on the property you are concerned with. But I get the impression from your post and previous ones that you desire to at some point.

I would certainly meet the neighbors. I would make it a point to speak with them whenever I was around.

I would also ask them if they would be willing to "keep and eye" on my property to make sure there was no one illegally dumping, poaching, hunting, cutting timber, etc on your property while you are not around.

This gets your message across as to what your expectations and desires are, does not accuse them of anything, and fosters trust and being "good neighbors".

If the undesired activity continues, post signs, fencing, whatever you feel is necessary and explain to them that you have no choice but to take these measures because undesired activity has continued.

If the trespassing continued I would contact LE.

Just my .02 though...
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You could put up a bob war fence and hook one of these to it:

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I think we're finally coming up with some reasonable and effective solutions.

All the "meet and great" Welcome Wagon suggestions had me thinkin' I'd accidentally logged on to Dr. Phil's forum.

^ he said in jest.
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Just get you a few of these to place around your property and at entry points. For full effect where an old surplus gas mask and chemical suit/gloves when driving in and out for the first week or so for all to see and be sure to wave. . .

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Try:

"Trespassers will be shot and left for vultures".

Then a few further on property are a couple Very realistic Halloween skulls, bones, etc.
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I helped a friend with a similar problem on his family's plot. Simple no trespassing signs and purple paint made it stop.

In Texas purple paint means no trespassing. I do not know if other states are the same.
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Perhaps put gates up where they're driving vehicles onto your land, or just make their off-road trails impassable via promoting overgrowth and perhaps felling a few huge trees in their way? It worked on my grandmother's farm, though one guy came down her driveway and tried to intimidate her late one night, laying on the horn and waving a spotlight.

When the spotlight mysteriously went out on the guy and there was some loud crack overhead, he bailed out.

Turns out grandma isn't too bad with the old 10-22 she keeps in the living room
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.......tried to intimidate her late one night, laying on the horn and waving a spotlight......
My wife and I were walking on the street at our previous residence, in high spirits, whooping it up and having a good 'ole time when the local hermit lit us up with his spotlight. For the next six months, several times a month I would drive by at night and light up his trailer for 5 or 7 seconds figuring it would take him 10 seconds to get off the couch to the front door. I wore his ass out.

Seems to me your problem is getting the message out to the idiots without offending the decent folks. You don't know how stupid the idiots are so it's hard to calibrate the message.
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It was about a wheelbarrow full and you have to prove it......
Depends on how the law is worded. In my state it is create, contribute to or allow to exist. I can go after the landowner if one is on his property even if he didn't create it. I try and always go after the Violator who made it when possible but I have the option of citing the Landowner if necessary.

I almost certainly woudn't even write an NOV on a wheelbarrow load unless he refused to remove it after I verbally instructed him to.
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For hunters, remember, here in MT, the red/orange band around fence post/tree's, etc, means "No Trespassing". Get to know your neighbors, and have a big get together party to really find out what their like, and let them know about you and your plans. I can only hope your NOT up around Kalispell. Seems a little different there. Good luck.
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