TGI AMD-65 first thoughts(pics inside) - Page 2

maddawg5777 · #21 11-10-12, 11:20

I haven't touched an arsenal in a year or so, Im not saying the amd is a turd but from what i remember the arsenal was a little more refined. As far as shooting goes they seem to be equal in my little experience. But time will tell with this one.

TacticalSledgehammer · #22 11-11-12, 08:58

The finish on the arsenal is better for sure. I remember picking an amd-65 parts kit up at knob creek that was blued. I'm not sure if it was original or not. All the kits I've has in the past were painted.

Hizzie · #23 11-11-12, 11:26

True the finish on an Arsenal AK looks nicer. Get anything stronger than CLP on it and it melts right off. There are plenty of pics of AK's that guys repainted that look pretty damn good and were nothing more than rattle can spray jobs. Function > Form

maddawg5777 · #24 11-11-12, 13:15

I plan on beating most the paint off this thing within a few months, then it will be time for good rattle can. I much prefer that a rifle works compared to how it looks. Shit I adjusted my sight with a cleaning rod and a hammer, not worried about finish in the least.

Al Bundy · #25 11-12-12, 00:53

I like mine an awful lot. Runs 100%, no issues at all. The forward grip and metal handguard work for me just fine. Added a riser from AMD65tech and swapped the brake out for an extended flash hider. Put an IDF sling on it and have right at $600 in it with shipping (from Centerfire) and transfer.

Top target is a bunch of rounds offhand at 50 yards or so, with the ones toward the bottom before I adjusted the front sight a bit. Lower target is 10 or so rounds from a bench at about 50 yards.

Weather and work have kept me from putting more than a few hundred rounds through it in the little time I've had it but like I said, it runs 100%.

Al Bundy · #26 11-12-12, 00:58

Here's a better shot of the fh. Got it from USmachinegun.

Took about 30 seconds with a hacksaw to cut through the bead of weld holding the original brake on, then took the rifle and a six pack over to a friends and he welded the new one on for me.

Doc. Holiday · #27 11-12-12, 09:50

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Originally Posted by maddawg5777

I haven't touched an arsenal in a year or so, Im not saying the amd is a turd but from what i remember the arsenal was a little more refined. As far as shooting goes they seem to be equal in my little experience. But time will tell with this one.

How is your bolt? Is it smooth or is it a bit on the rough side?

maddawg5777 · #28 11-12-12, 10:38

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How is your bolt? Is it smooth or is it a bit on the rough side?

The bolt itself if quite smooth, the carrier, on the other hand has alot of machine marks all over it. The bolt still rides smooth in the channels even with the crappy machining.

Also I got bored yesterday and broke out some magpul rail sections and my drill. I will post pics of my add-ons in a bit.

maddawg5777 · #29 11-12-12, 10:44

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy

Here's a better shot of the fh. Got it from USmachinegun.

Took about 30 seconds with a hacksaw to cut through the bead of weld holding the original brake on, then took the rifle and a six pack over to a friends and he welded the new one on for me.

Al, how well does that flash hider work? Also did you notice any increase in felt recoil or muzzle climb when you got rid of the break. I like the factory break, the fireball is kind of fun. Although I see it as a tactical disadvantage overall. This rifle is more of a fun gun than anything else until it proves its self reliable.(another 300 rounds or so trouble free)

maddawg5777 · #30 11-12-12, 11:20

So I got tired of the factory front grip and wanted to add a light. I dug out a couple old magpul rail sections and started fitting them to the rifle. I used the small 2 1/2? section on the side and just ran the allen screws through the provided slots and tightened. To add a rail to the bottom was more of a challenge. After removing the hand guard and front grip I noticed a small "bump" put in the metal to help assist in holding the factory grip in place. I matched up the existing hole with one on the longer magpul rail section. Then marked where the bump was in correlation to the rail. I used a sanding wheel and my drill and removed some of the underside of the rail until is sat flush as possible. Then I marked the second hole on the hand guard and use a 11/32 drill bit to drill out the hole. The allen screw was just a little too big, and as I had lost my last magpul "nut" I decided to try and just ream the hole a little larger until the allen screw would just fit, then screw it into the metal. I must say it worked great. The is no flex on either rail and it is a cheap option over buying rails.

Now Ill just need an ultimak railed gas tube and an optic, but I'm good for now. Also I ran the blackhawk sling this way for over 100 rounds the other day and it shows no sign of melting. I was supprised!

Al Bundy · #31 11-12-12, 13:13

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Originally Posted by maddawg5777

Al, how well does that flash hider work? Also did you notice any increase in felt recoil or muzzle climb when you got rid of the break. I like the factory break, the fireball is kind of fun. Although I see it as a tactical disadvantage overall. This rifle is more of a fun gun than anything else until it proves its self reliable.(another 300 rounds or so trouble free)

It works well. With the original brake there was noticable muzzle flash even in broad daylight and that's gone now. With the stock vfg set up I get a good solid grip on the gun so maybe that's why, but I didn't really notice any more recoil/muzzle climb than before.

Vintovka · #32 11-12-12, 19:26

I'm a big fan of the AMD-65. This one has about 8,000 flawless rounds through it. I got it for Christmas in 2010. Silhouette targets out to 400 yards are easy. Mag dumps are fun too.

maddawg5777 · #33 11-12-12, 19:52

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I'm a big fan of the AMD-65. This one has about 8,000 flawless rounds through it. I got it for Christmas in 2010. Silhouette targets out to 400 yards are easy. Mag dumps are fun too.

They seem to be the best "value" ak on the market. I was surprised how good of accuracy I could achieve without much of a cheek weld and the narrow sight radius.

alvincullumyork · #34 11-13-12, 22:58

What are some good options for replacement furniture for the front end? Lower hand guard and gas tube cover.

I wish I had some money right now.

maddawg5777 · #35 11-13-12, 23:05

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What are some good options for replacement furniture for the front end? Lower hand guard and gas tube cover.

I wish I had some money right now.

Midwest industries make a nice lower hand guard/rail and they sell a combo gas tube cover that can be set up for multiple optics. Plus it co-witnesses the sights. I think they are running right around 120 bucks atm. There is always utg. Although not really on the quality end and heavy they make a quad rail setup, if you are trying to just replace the hand guards and cover the tube a bit it would work. I think they run around 70 bucks. Also the top rail will not co witness with your irons, just a thought. You can google "utg amd pro", that should pull up the cheaper rail.

Hizzie · #36 11-14-12, 00:20

My rifle in the previous pics is wearing the Midwest Industries Extended SS Handguard (MI-AK-SS-X) with standard top cover.

Al Bundy · #37 11-14-12, 01:50

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Originally Posted by alvincullumyork

What are some good options for replacement furniture for the front end? Lower hand guard and gas tube cover.

A standard lower handguard fits fine, I have one that looks like it would take just a bit sanding/filing on the front edge and it would drop right in. You can mod (shorten a bit and bell the end back out) a regular AK gas tube to use a standard upper handguard.

Honestly though the stock handguard/foregrip combo works a lot better than you would think from looking at it. At least for me...

Doc. Holiday · #38 11-14-12, 10:02

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Originally Posted by maddawg5777

There is always utg. Although not really on the quality end and heavy they make a quad rail setup, if you are trying to just replace the hand guards and cover the tube a bit it would work. I think they run around 70 bucks. Also the top rail will not co witness with your irons, just a thought. You can google "utg amd pro", that should pull up the cheaper rail.

There's just something wack about putting airsoft stuff on real steel... :S

maddawg5777 · #39 11-14-12, 12:35

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There's just something wack about putting airsoft stuff on real steel... :S

I agree but he asked what options were out there, so I gave him one higher end and one lower end. I could have been mean and said use google lol.

KalashniKEV · #40 11-14-12, 13:27

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Originally Posted by alvincullumyork

What are some good options for replacement furniture for the front end? Lower hand guard and gas tube cover.

You can easily make an AMD length upper HG by cutting a standard gas tube to fit and then heating/ pounding out the flutes.