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11-12-12, 09:01
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Originally Posted by everyusernametaken
I believe there are really two distinct groups you can pursue with new products in this industry - those who know specifically what they're looking for, and those who just buy something that appeals to them for some non-functional reason. It looks like Colt has invested more in the latter this time around, *snip*
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I agree. There were a lot of times watching that vid where I thought 'oh, that might be nice...' and it would turn in to '...except for that.' As-is, the A4 was the only one I could see myself considering.
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11-12-12, 09:04
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Originally Posted by scottryan
Its time for Colt to park the clown car.
11.5" with an extended flash hider? Really? That went out of style 20 years ago.
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There's a lot of silly shit coming from Colt these days.
It's like ARFcom took over the decision making at Colt. 
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11-12-12, 10:54
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Originally Posted by scottryan
The slightly higher price of the 6933 will be seen when you send your lower off to be engraved and have the long flash hider removed. That is a wash.
You also have to account for the devalue of the barrel since it is left with a dimple where the pin and weld used to be. You would be lucky to get $175 for it, where real Colt 11.5" barrels go for $400 street price.
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Wow, I really had no idea what I was talking about and you sure did debate me into oblivion...
I did my engraving at a local trophy shop for $15, and I wouldn't send the barrel off to have that weld removed, that's a pretty simple task. I see your points but I think the LECAR is still a fine option if you aren't framiliar with SBRs, want the gun one now, or don't plan on selling the parts.
It's not the best option for a purist, but it is absolutely functionally acceptable for most people. ESP the ones that have no SBR experience and have no access to test/try one before getting into NFA. It's not even a great option for me, I just won't sit here and shit on Colt because they made some choices designed around selling guns to other people's interests.
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11-12-12, 10:59
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I just won't sit here and shit on Colt because they made some choices designed around selling guns to other people's interests.
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I applaud your ability to at least see that the thing should be removed.
But I don't agree with Colt producing a config that Bushmaster was running 10 years ago.
I doubt they're targeting guys like you who know to remove the thing... they're going after the imbecile market. Not a good sign.
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11-12-12, 11:05
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Originally Posted by Noodles
It's not even a great option for me, I just won't sit here and shit on Colt because they made some choices designed around selling guns to other people's interests.
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Exactly, they are trying to grab a larger slice of the market. Even John Deere sold the farm and sells cheap manufactured tractors at box stores.
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11-12-12, 11:49
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Originally Posted by markm
I doubt they're targeting guys like you who know to remove the thing... they're going after the imbecile market. Not a good sign.
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Fair enough. 
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11-12-12, 14:59
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I really like the A4, but are the M4 feedramps necessary? I had a different brand A4 with rifle cuts, never had an issue, damn I miss that rifle, I need to get another A4.
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11-12-12, 15:39
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Whoever did their market research was smoking crack. Did Mr. Cohen from Sig go work for colt ?
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If that happened, we'd see AR's with names that sound like bad Kung-Fu movies or rejected James Bond enemies.
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Originally Posted by scottryan
The entire AR-15 industry went with Troy BUIS as their OEM sights.
Colt keeps going with the magpul mbus.
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The Colt 901 I saw the other day had Colt branded Troy sights.
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11-12-12, 18:21
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Originally Posted by Noodles
Wow, I really had no idea what I was talking about and you sure did debate me into oblivion...
I did my engraving at a local trophy shop for $15, and I wouldn't send the barrel off to have that weld removed, that's a pretty simple task. I see your points but I think the LECAR is still a fine option if you aren't framiliar with SBRs, want the gun one now, or don't plan on selling the parts.
It's not the best option for a purist, but it is absolutely functionally acceptable for most people. ESP the ones that have no SBR experience and have no access to test/try one before getting into NFA. It's not even a great option for me, I just won't sit here and shit on Colt because they made some choices designed around selling guns to other people's interests.
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Your guns is devalued around $500 after you engrave your lower and remove the flash hider.
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11-12-12, 18:42
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Originally Posted by halo2304
If that happened, we'd see AR's with names that sound like bad Kung-Fu movies or rejected James Bond enemies.
The Colt 901 I saw the other day had Colt branded Troy sights.
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Yup, just like Noveske, Larue, and BCM.
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I can't understand what's wrong with offering just the Colt 6933, and a A2 carry handle version of the same gun. Both factory SBRs. Screw the stupid flash moderator thing. Reintroduce the CAR/N-1 stock.
The A4 looks good. M4 feedramps don't really make a difference. However they should give the option to throw a KAC 12'' RAS on it.
I like some of the anodized camos.
Overall... Not bad... Not great either. I like the carry handle SBR from factory.
Ideally though they'd offer a commando with no magazine fense, no brass deflector, no bolt assist, A1 sights, carbine handguards, and CAR stock. That'd be so bad-fuckin'-ass...
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11-12-12, 19:38
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Originally Posted by markm
There's a lot of silly shit coming from Colt these days.
It's like ARFcom took over the decision making at Colt. |
While this is true it is good marketing on their part. They are now making products that the average gun stupid joe will buy, while still making those really good items that the gun savvy joe will buy.
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Colt builds War Horses, not show ponies.
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Originally Posted by Iraqgunz
This is 2012. The world is going to end this December and people are still trying to debate the merits of piece of shit, cost cutting crap AR's. Really?
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11-12-12, 20:50
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Colt should have skipped all the ARFCOM crap and introduced the "Legacy Line";
SP1
SP1 Carbine
AR15A2
Retro Commando SBR
Then the "Battle Line";
6920
6921
*with a SOCOM package for each available from the Custom Shop.
6933
*with a Mk18 package available from the Custom Shop.
6720
6520
6940
6940P
AR15A4
Forget all the Magpul extras, Rogers stocks, etc. if people want that, they can purchase it aftermarket. Simplify the line and keep it simple and maintain Colt's reputation of being a simple rifle for serious tasks.
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11-12-12, 21:18
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It's probably cheaper and easier to make magpul and Rogers parts oem, knowing get the purists will buy the CAR, sp1 etc and replace the tactical stuff with harder to find originals or repro stocks, grips, etc.
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11-12-12, 21:45
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Love the Retro Carbine, but I would rather see the fixed stock come with it
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