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Their MOE to MLOK drawing is retarded showing MOE in imperial and MLOK in metric... But they are definitely incompatible.
Which is why I saw all new Magpul furniture is coming. It just may be the same thing with updated "negative space" for the MLOK, or it could be actually-new parts. The MOE stuff is heavy (thus the reason everyone is trending metal + keymod, but whatever) and could use a re-design.
Although on Magpul's side this is interesting because it's ALL new furniture AND accessories they'll need to be on top of, this is actually a big deal. Huge investment.
Biggest advantages of mlok from the brochure:
Can mount accessories backwards and forwards without modification
Works on polymer handguards
Easier and cheaper machining
Doesn't look like warehouse shelving
Last edited by Koshinn; 04-22-14 at 14:57.
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I'm kinda thinking there is a specific reason they would rather compete with than participate in the KeyMod space?
Doing a very brief glance at the technical drawings and a quick math calculation, theoretically you could mount an MLok accessory in a keymod slot...
I wonder if this was intentional.
They explain it in their FAQ. Back side features like the keymod's taper would be expensive to injection mold, and my guess is they can't get the strength they would need while keeping weight down in plastic.
It's a fair implementation... IF your goal is to make very high margin plastic rails.... My curiosity is that given the choice, who wants heavier plastic rails? People searching for the cheaper option mostly. Which will of course work well for them - It's just that imo this is a MASSIVE investment on their part.
That makes sense. The price on the metal handguard will be VERY interesting.
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Yea... It looks to me like the center to center is 20mm on page 5 of the PDF. It doesn't say it's 20mm exactly, they just kind of imply it.
MLOK at 20mm is .787
Keymod is .788 center to center
But, I'm not seeing any mating taper on their T-Nut. They do say it's "cams" but that's in sheer to the part...
My guess.... Is that Magpul not being outright dummies... Is going to offer two versions of the nut and keep the parts the same. It does sort of seem that you might be able to put a keymod nut on a MLOK part... But... They are showing a flat mating section with large rounded corners where KM has a full radius mating face. Perhaps they drew it up so that the top and bottom radii match the tangent of the KM sections...???? It does seem unlikely to make the part 1/3rd of a human hair different in center to center and NOT make them compatible by using a different nut.
Add to that, they show an MOE adapter... But my guess is that's going to get old quick so it seems they just doubled SKUs on all their MOE parts and will likely make MLOK versions.
Last edited by Noodles; 04-22-14 at 15:17.
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