What's The Allure of SBR's?

[Sparky5019]

Chick magnet.


C4

This plus once you put a can on it, you're back to the 14-15" range anyway. You can a 16" gun and that makes it at least a 20" after that.

I like em. Jus sayin.

[Bang4Buck]

Handguns are light and easy to maneuver but badly underpowered. A full size AR has awesome power but added bulk and is more difficult to move around with in tight spaces, such as your home.

The SBR is the best compromise available. Plus they cure ED. No viagra needed.

[cop1211]

Ive got 3 sbr's to use on the SWAT team 10.5,11.5,12.5 My favorite length is a 12.5, or 14.5 due to being able to use a longer rail system.

[MegademiC]

THE question is why are they restricted?

If NFA didn't exist, my main ar would be a 12-12.5".

Now I have a 14.5" perm job and will be building an 8" 300blk. The barrel is half the length of a std barrel. Even with a silencer it will come to about 13-14.5".

It's lighter, quieter and shorter. You can't figure out the benefit inside a residence or even suburban eenvironment?

As said, the benefit of longer barrels isn't realized until outside most defensive distances. And honestly, at this distances, I'd rather have another cal.

[Tzook]

They're just fast man. Being able to move around in a structure with a 10.5 inch gun versus a 16 inch gun makes a world of difference. And as said before, it's nice to have a 16 OAL with a suppressor instead of 20,22 or 24.

[PatrioticDisorder]

Didn't go through all the comments but read a few, as others have said, a 16" unsuppressed gun is going to do a number on your hearing if you need to use it without ear pro. A suppressed SBR while loud will do significantly less permanent hearing damage and allow you to keep your hearing after the shot, important for situational awareness. SBR keeps the overall length reasonable (a little shorter than a 16" unsuppressed) while cutting down on overall sound, blast, confusion and flash. Use of barrier blind quality loads will still be effective at ranges relevant to 5.56, pretty much any SD/HD/LEO/SHTF situation you may ever find yourself in.

I love my suppressed 11.5, if I can only have 1 rifle it would be my suppressed 11.5 hands down.

[themonk]

I love my suppressed 11.5, if I can only have 1 rifle it would be my suppressed 11.5 hands down.

Same here!

[Gatorshark]

How could this not be fun??

[Maple Leaf pilgrim]

Actually it should be Roger, Out or Wilco. A little levity.

In my crew we said "copy" all the time.

As for the SBR debate, in Canada, we have no threshold between the artificial divisions of Rifle/Carbine/SBR(CQBR)/PDW as all rifles with a bbl of 18.5" or less and all ARs are restricted, thus subject to being registered (equivalent of a tax stamp).

I own a SBR (PWS Mk112 Mod 0) and a Carbine (Colt Canada SA15.7). The difference between the two and what I would prefer them for are in essence, blurred. They both work just fine for me in CQB, with the PWS being a bit faster and a bit lighter. At short and intermediate ranges the two rifles are pretty much equal. The SA15.7 begins to shine once I get past 200m and really hits much harder past 300. I can make Minute of Torso with the PWS out to 500m without a lot of trouble, but if I'm smacking X-rays at that distance, I want to make sure that its worth the trip!

I do believe that a good portion of the blurring of lines in this regard comes from the fact I have them both set up in a very similar fashion with the furniture. When you add a PEQ-xx a light, suppressor and optics to the weapon you have to think about balancing the weapon so that you aren't fighting to keep the muzzle aligned, brought to bear, etc... Sure the longer barreled weapon will still be heavier, but if you set it up right, it can be as fast to come around as an improperly set up SBR in the right hands.

Where the SBR does have a distinct advantage is in tight spaces, as has been mentioned before. I always found dragging my rifle and my as out of the wrong side of a vehicle was always (marginally) easier with an SBR, not to mention moving about in buildings that had taken a hit or two (or fourteen) during CQB/FIBUA. But when I had to really reach out I never really had as high a stop rate with the CQBRs.

-S.

[C-grunt]

OP think of it this way... What's the allure of a 16 inch carbine over a 20 inch rifle?