Charlottesville Rally - Deaths etc

[Inkslinger]

At some point your liberty and rights have to be balanced by common sense and prudence.
If you were there, on either side, you went there looking for a fight.
Nobody was going to be educated, no one was going to change their mind and clearly no one was safe. So what we had wasn't a rally, or a political event, people of opposing views gathered to fight in the streets.
That this wasn't stopped in time to save lives, or cancelled when it became apparent earlier in the week what this had become leads me to believe certain folks may have wanted some bloodshed to further their goals.

Exactly right. It wasn't a "rally" it was a "rumble".

[Averageman]

Exactly right. It wasn't a "rally" it was a "rumble".

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1d8_1502562567

[glocktogo]

Not a decent human being in sight. Napalm the lot of them and this shit show would end overnight.

[TomMcC]

Did they identify themselves as "alt-right"? The reason I ask is the pictures I've seen show what looks something like Klansmen and neo-nazis. It seems to me that the farther right you go you would end up with anarchy not fascist white supremacists. The Klan flowed out of Jacksonian dixiecrats and I always considered Nazis, because of their socialism, to be leftists. National Socialists as opposed to International Socialists.


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[tb-av]

Have heard that it was in fact a peaceful "counter protester" who thought he was running over White Supremacists. Wonder what the storyline will be?

You know, I was just watching the video of it happening. When that car goes down the street just as getting ready to hit the people it passes this girl and you can hear her as she watches and say "****!!"(F-word)... Not like OMG!! but like damn it's being done wrong!!

Isn't that going to be something if this was a peacenick.

It seems kinda odd one of the KKK types would be playing the loner. They were traveling in protected groups. For a loner to do this would be totally out of line with their agenda.

[Big A]

That this wasn't stopped in time to save lives, or cancelled when it became apparent earlier in the week what this had become leads me to believe certain folks may have wanted some bloodshed to further their goals.

The city of Charlottesville tried to pull the white nationalists permit but the ACLU stepped in on their behalf.


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[Averageman]

You are correct Sir!
https://acluva.org/20102/aclu-va-sta...arlottesville/
“The ACLU of Virginia stands firmly for the right to freedom of expression for everyone. We stand just as firmly in opposition to violence, racism and hatred of any kind. We condemn in the strongest possible terms the willful, malicious, dangerous and unlawful acts that occurred Friday evening in Charlottesville and on the University of Virginia campus. We urge anyone participating in demonstrations or protests of any kind today to do so in a spirit of peaceful, productive discourse. There is no place in a civil society for violent conflict, and we oppose such acts of aggression no matter the source.”

But after Friday night, why continue today?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...le-over-movin/
Saturday’s rally is intended to protest the city’s scheduled removal of the monument as well as its recent renaming of Lee Park, and Mr. Kessler’s attorneys argued Thursday that holding the rally elsewhere would “dilute and alter” the demonstrators’ message as well as “substantially undermine” their ability to communicate their cause.
“Unless Defendants and their agents are enjoined, Plaintiff, other similarly-situated protesters who share his views and other members of the public will be irreparably harmed as they will be prevented from peacefully gathering to express their views on pressing issues of public concern at a time, place and in a manner reasonable for them to do so,” his attorneys wrote.

After Friday there wasn't a chance this wasn't going to go violent.

[elephant]

its a catch 22, First:

Lets identify the 2 parties:

The demonstrators: Made up of mostly Non KKK members but defiantly white Caucasians who are racist towards non whites, alt right/far right who use the word "patriot" as a footnote to satisfy there critics.

The protesters: which a large percentage is made up of ANTIFA, BLM, Liberals, Bernie Supporters and College Freshmen who use "free speech" as a way to suppress individual thoughts that are not consistent with there ideology

Both parties have the right to demonstrate, protest, petition and to picket. Obviously the demonstrators were there to spew a bunch of hate and reiterate the same old story about how the good times are behind us and whites are becoming a minority. The protesters gathered to show resistance towards the demonstrators and most likely started hurling insults or aggressive behavior - study shows based on evidence from Baltimore, Ferguson, Dallas, St Louis, Atlanta, Wisconsin that liberals will result to physical aggression if they are not being listened to. Personally I hate both parties but I do think the protestors brought fuel to a fire, the fact that many showed up wearing helmets, sticks and padding clearly indicates that they expected a physical altercation or anticipated a physical altercation. Either way, they came prepared. Free speech works both ways, I don't agree with alt right/far right but I don't agree with ANTIFA/BLM so I let them talk because some people just need to be listened to-even if they have not much to say. Basically this was a far left/far right rumble, and a couple of socs tried to drown Ponyboy and one of them got stabbed, later Johnny got his back broke and Dallas was killed in the end.

[tb-av]

http://rutherford.org/files_images/g...rComplaint.pdf

[skywalkrNCSU]

Did they identify themselves as "alt-right"? The reason I ask is the pictures I've seen show what looks something like Klansmen and neo-nazis. It seems to me that the farther right you go you would end up with anarchy not fascist white supremacists. The Klan flowed out of Jacksonian dixiecrats and I always considered Nazis, because of their socialism, to be leftists. National Socialists as opposed to International Socialists.


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Yeah all those neo nazi's and kkk members that were out rallying for Obama right? I'm sure that side is consistently voting democrat...