Yep, bs gun for the square range, but I liked the size and the view through the thin hood. Looking through the sample at a local shop, I really liked it. Sounds like waterproof to 33ft doesn't mean it's usable that far down. Guess it's back to the Dollar Gunstore to check back into things. Appreciate the input.
One last bit of whining:
It would appear that Sig's Lifetime Warranty, though you don't have to register and it's transferrable, does not include electronics or titanium parts. Holosun's LW only covers illumination for 10yrs, and you have to register with them. If I understood the fine print, that is....
I can't hate an RDS more than the RMR. I'm annoyed the second I look through one of those turds. For purposes of this "funzy" range dot, the Romeo would have been a great option for really cheap.
I was given a Geissele mount for mine, but I'd have been just fine with the thingy it came with. The delta point is a good sight too.. with some mentioned flaws.
I'm liking the closed emitter stuff that's starting to pop up much better. Saw one on a mini Staccato that looked really solid. At the end of the day though, a fair weathered dot is a dot. Shoot. I have an old $20 pos RDS on a 10/22 with parts rattling around inside it that still works and holds zero.
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So, I've ordered the Holosun 530. I have to wonder about the encoded waterproofing ratings of this kind of stuff. "With an IP68 rating, they are water resistant in fresh water to a maximum depth of 1.5 metres for up to 30 minutes, and are protected from dust." So, how long can they have a drop of water in what places and survive? I do shoot in severe conditions at the square range with light rain occasionally dripping through holes people have shot in the roof, or dripping condensation from the tin roof. 🙂
Seriously, I do wonder how an "IP68" would hold up in a long, steady rain....
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IPX8 and IP68 look like the best resistance ratings on the market ATM. The characters after the IP are dust/particulates (first digit, X = untested/unrated) and water (second digit).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_code
Theoretically you COULD see an IP69 maxing the protection for both, but the proof testing on those is firehoses or industrial waterjets.
Are you leaving it outside for a few days, or are you gonna take it in and towel it off after a few hours? This is one of my big worries selecting an optic for the Longslide I'm building here in The Land Where Moss Grows Between Ears AND On Trees...
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If you're not going underwater, IPX8 will be totally fine. IPX4 is typically considered rainproof. IPX5 and above I would have zero concerns about just rain at the square range shooting in a covered area.
This is all very easily found information, had you attempted any research of your own.
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Sig simply said waterproof to 33 meters. I was joking about the range wetness, but was kinda wondering should I end up with it on another rifle out in inclement weather.....
I suk at googlie research and have troulble swallowing some of what it provides. All said and done, I figured this forum would be the easy button for info including that garnered from actual experience.
Thanks yet again to ya'll. Really.
Yeah, you're in my AO of course, and I can say I've had both my IPX7 rated Swampfox pistol optics out shooting/training/hiking/camping in multiple classic PNW rainstorms, and they've held up perfectly.
So I guess IPx7 = PNW-proof.
ETA: and as to the topic of the OP, no, I see no reason to use a small open emitter RDS on a rifle when there are so many good enclosed type that're small and light.
Last edited by ViniVidivici; 01-11-24 at 11:29.
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