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10-01-2009, 08:16 AM
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Terminal Ballistic bibliography
Iīm looking for books on this subject.
I did a search at amazon bookstore and found a few, but I would like to know which are reference in this field.
Sugestions welcome
Thanks
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10-01-2009, 09:02 AM
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10-01-2009, 09:40 AM
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Thank you, this is exactly what I want.
I read these two books, they are excellent.
Iīm looking now for more references.
Augusto.
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10-01-2009, 11:32 AM
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If the stars and planets would ever line up, we would have a complete reprint of all volumes of the Wound Ballistic Review of the IWBA. I have the full set and the contents are pure gold from both the academic integrity standpoint and the information contained.
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10-01-2009, 03:01 PM
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Great news!
How can I pre order it?????
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10-01-2009, 07:29 PM
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It's not great news because it's unlikely to happen. Dr. Fackler has made no moves to allow a reprint.
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10-18-2009, 11:35 AM
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What about this DVD?
http://www.trueballistics.com/
Someone knows it?
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10-18-2009, 01:31 PM
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No, Sir. Get your hands on the DVD Deadly Effects-with significant input from Dr. Fackler. Available through Anite Productions.
-Dave
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10-20-2009, 10:08 AM
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Thanks, Iīll order one.
This is other DVD that looks very interesting but is also expensive:
http://www.projectile.com/fp.html
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10-28-2009, 07:29 AM
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Where I find the Wound Ballistic Reviews of the IWBA?
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10-29-2009, 04:25 PM
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Basically, you won't...
Those of us that have them (WBR journals) do not want to wear them out trying to print or scan them. Besides, Fackler needs to allow it if it is to be duplicated and passed around.
As the founder of the IWBA, he owns the rights to the WBR...
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10-30-2009, 11:56 AM
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Sirs,
a book I received only 2 days ago....I just started to read it but it looks really promising....for people interested about the factors that influenced the effectiveness of pistol bullets against humans....and a critical analysis of previous methods utilized to rank such effectiveness by various authors...
its title is:
"Handgun bullet stopping power: beyond the hyperbole of cartridge advocacy"
written by Mr. George B. Bredsten
...who, if I am right, is the author of some articles published on WBR...
All the best
Andrea
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11-03-2009, 06:03 AM
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I received this book a few months ago. At first sight it didnīt look so promising...the autor despises MacPhersonīs work for example.
But I will look again.
I just ordered LA LESIONI D ARMA DA FUOCO NELLA PRATICA MEDICO LEGALE E BALISTICA , FRANCO ALBERTON and GIUSEPPE MONTALBANO.
Do you know it?
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11-03-2009, 04:54 PM
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haven't checked that one out yet
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11-04-2009, 02:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Augusto
I received this book a few months ago. At first sight it didnīt look so promising...the autor despises MacPhersonīs work for example.
But I will look again.
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Augusto,
...Mr. Bredsten tells to the readers simply that the McPherson method can be difficult to understand for people not well versed in mathematics...if my memory is right he uses the term "esoteric" for the Mr. McPherson's method....if the author despises Mr. McPherson book it can be difficult for me to understand why he suggests this book (..and other books..) for people really interested in the matter....in fact as you can see in the references at the end of the book some titles are written in bold characters...one of these is the book of Mr. McPherson, imho...
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I just ordered LA LESIONI D ARMA DA FUOCO NELLA PRATICA MEDICO LEGALE E BALISTICA , FRANCO ALBERTON and GIUSEPPE MONTALBANO.
Do you know it?
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Yes,
...it's an old book(..mid 80's..)....I have a copy from a long time....it's a quite interesting book from a forensics point of view...a bit less interesting from the point of view of the wound ballistic mechanics...
All the best
Andrea
P.S.: do you read italian?
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11-04-2009, 06:32 AM
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Thanks for your response.
I think I didnīt see the references in the end. Read only the first pages...Iīll have to look again.
I donīt read italian but I hope some words are similar to portuguese
In fact Iīm trying to get everything I can about wound ballistic. There are a few titles in spanish also. Iīm thinking even about buying Kneubuehl most recent book, in german. It will be harder to read...but maybe Dave have some more input about this book that could help me.
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11-05-2009, 03:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Augusto
I donīt read italian but I hope some words are similar to portuguese 
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Augusto,
if you need I can help you with the italian...the only real problem is my very bad english!
All the best
Andrea
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11-05-2009, 09:59 AM
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Thanks!
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11-05-2009, 01:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Augusto
Thanks for your response.
I think I didnīt see the references in the end. Read only the first pages...Iīll have to look again.
I donīt read italian but I hope some words are similar to portuguese
In fact Iīm trying to get everything I can about wound ballistic. There are a few titles in spanish also. Iīm thinking even about buying Kneubuehl most recent book, in german. It will be harder to read...but maybe Dave have some more input about this book that could help me.
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Augusto-
yes, as far as I know the 2008 version is only available in German. I can't judge the Physics aspect, he seems to love that stuff, very much of it. A while ago Doc said something to the effect that the Swiss are trying to make their projos less lethal, whereas the US wants them, logically, to be more so. First I thought, yeah, this seems typical for Americans to think that their way is the best (no offense to you Doc, should you read this, or the USA) ...then I noticed that he is right! There are many suggestions on how to make bullets more 'humane', e.g. later upset, less fragmentation, less KE dumped (he should know better about the KE dump myth), etc. When I got past the dozens of pages of Physics and the (rather boring and already known) history of ammunition, I got down to the real wound ballistics aspect. Chapter X began with something like 'the temporary cavitation is the primary wounding factor of rifle bullets penetrating animal tissue.' Then came a formula (typical him) and it continued with 'the more kinetic energy is released the more tissue will be damaged'. Before that he introduced several models including Macpherson's Wound Trauma Incapacitation Model; he basically said it was unscientific and wrong. If COL Fackler spoke so highly of it, it means a LOT!
To make a long story short-after reading the above mentioned BS I closed the book and brought it back to the medical library next day!
Get Macpherson and the WB DVD.
Hope I could help.
Dave
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