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11-04-2009, 02:50 PM
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Home Defense load for my benelli shotgun?
I have finalley bought my benelli and I like to gun very much. I have allready used it at the range with an trap load and it's an great gun. Now I am looking for an decent defense load for my new shotgun. I have allready done some investigations and here in austria I can get everythin from winchester, remington and federal. The loads of some european companies (selier&bellot, nobel sports, fioochi) are also available. The noble sports 12 gauge 00 buckshot shells would be the cheapest. My second choice would be the sellier&bellot 12 gauge buckshot load with 12 pellets. ( http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?p ... ber=979634). Has somebody experience with that load or with the buckshot loads from nobel sports? Or would you recomend somethin else?
I would be pleased hearing some tipps
Greetings from austria. 
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11-05-2009, 11:30 PM
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Buy half a dozen buckshot loads and a few chokes and hit the patterning board. The answer will present itself along with the evidence to support it.
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11-06-2009, 03:47 PM
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Try several of the 'Low Recoil' 00 Buckshot loads, like the Winchester Ranger RA1200 or Federal's 'Flight Control'... then do just what 'WS6' suggests, and pattern them...
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11-06-2009, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Glock17JHP
Try several of the 'Low Recoil' 00 Buckshot loads, like the Winchester Ranger RA1200 or Federal's 'Flight Control'... then do just what 'WS6' suggests, and pattern them...
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I would steer away from the low-recoil loads in a semi-auto. Even if they do function when the gun is held tight against the shoulder, they may not function in a less than ideal situation.
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11-06-2009, 06:42 PM
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Thx for your answers. I will do that. I have allready ordered several buckshot loads, and I can pick them up next week at my local gunstore, then I will start the tests. I have ordered, loads, from sellier&bellot, winchester and remington. Here in austria the winchester shotshells have a very good reputation among shooters. I have also seen some #4 buckshot shells from remington at my local gun store. What do you think about that shot size?
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11-06-2009, 06:54 PM
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11-06-2009, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman0085
Thx for your answers. I will do that. I have allready ordered several buckshot loads, and I can pick them up next week at my local gunstore, then I will start the tests. I have ordered, loads, from sellier&bellot, winchester and remington. Here in austria the winchester shotshells have a very good reputation among shooters. I have also seen some #4 buckshot shells from remington at my local gun store. What do you think about that shot size?
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Awesome! #4 is considered marginal.
Glad to see that you are going to pattern your shotgun, figure out how it performs with what ammo, and be an informed shooter instead of someone who just buys something, throws it togather, and calls it good.
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11-07-2009, 10:47 AM
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WS6,
I understand your concern, but I do think that the specific LE loads I listed would be OK in the Benelli... since those loads are used a lot in Benelli's in LE...
There are Winchester AA loads, however, that I would NOT recommend in the Benelli, and they even have semi-auto reliability warnings on the boxes. But those are trap/skeet loads...
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11-07-2009, 10:55 AM
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MK18Pilot Thx for the informativ link.
@Glock17 Thx for the tipp concering the law recoil loads. It would be possible to order the Winchester Ranger RA1200, the federal tactical loads are not avialable.
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11-07-2009, 11:45 AM
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WS6,
I understand your concern, but I do think that the specific LE loads I listed would be OK in the Benelli... since those loads are used a lot in Benelli's in LE...
There are Winchester AA loads, however, that I would NOT recommend in the Benelli, and they even have semi-auto reliability warnings on the boxes. But those are trap/skeet loads...
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I dunno. Some people have said Ranger reduced recoil will work, some have said it won't. Only way to know is for him to try it.
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11-07-2009, 12:28 PM
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I like the 3 extra pellets that come in a 2.75 inch 00 buck "magnum" load (12 pellets) especially because it doesn't affect how many shells you can load into the tube. I'd recommend the Federal and Remington.
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11-07-2009, 06:26 PM
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@Ws6 that's right the only way to find out if the reduced recoil loads work in my benelli m4 ist to test them.
@SnakeLogan Thx for the tipps I will put the 12 pellet loads from federal and remington on my list. It would be even possible to get an 16 pellet load from remington, but I think an 16 pellet buckshot load would be overkill for sd.
Im talkling about this load.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=285371
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11-07-2009, 06:49 PM
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Both of my Benellis (M3 and Super Black Eagle) took several hundred shells and good gun oil (FP10, now Weaponshield) before they were happy running LE Low Recoil Federal shells.
I suggest running at least 100 slugs through it as a start. Remington "Slugger" slugs are pretty cheap and fairly accurate IME.
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11-07-2009, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman0085
@SnakeLogan Thx for the tipps I will put the 12 pellet loads from federal and remington on my list. It would be even possible to get an 16 pellet load from remington, but I think an 16 pellet buckshot load would be overkill for sd.
Im talkling about this load.
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The load I mentioned is 00 buck. The one you linked to is #1. I prefer 00 because it has deeper penetration.
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11-07-2009, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman0085
@Ws6 that's right the only way to find out if the reduced recoil loads work in my benelli m4 ist to test them.
@SnakeLogan Thx for the tipps I will put the 12 pellet loads from federal and remington on my list. It would be even possible to get an 16 pellet load from remington, but I think an 16 pellet buckshot load would be overkill for sd.
Im talkling about this load.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=285371 |
Try the WInchester Supreme XX 12-pellet loads. They pattern VERY evenly in my experience.
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11-07-2009, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DBR
Both of my Benellis (M3 and Super Black Eagle) took several hundred shells and good gun oil (FP10, now Weaponshield) before they were happy running LE Low Recoil Federal shells.
I suggest running at least 100 slugs through it as a start. Remington "Slugger" slugs are pretty cheap and fairly accurate IME.
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What's wierd is my M4 functioned with 2.75 Dram 1200fps Remington target bird-shot and yet the guy I sold it to messaged me saying it wouldn't run Win-Lite buckshot. I think a lot of it has to do with the shooter. I have around 10% body-fat and shoot in T-shirts (here in the south, it's warm...). this guy lived up north (wore a coat?) and may have been a bit softer (I don't know). If so, it means the gun moves more under recoil and the action must be cycled with more force to prevent "limp-wristing" because there is more give behind it. I dunno, just a thought.
LaRue MG Lube worked GREAT! on my M4's.
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11-07-2009, 08:55 PM
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Mine likes the Federal LE132 00 loads. They have the Flitecontrol wad. All nine pellets will hit the vitals on a silhouette at 20 yards with a 20" barrel.
Recoil seems a bit softer with these as well.
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11-07-2009, 11:09 PM
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IIRC the M4 is a gas gun not an inertia gun and was specifically designed to shoot light LE type loads
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11-08-2009, 05:44 AM
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@all Thx for the further information. I have done some more investigations and I have found an source which has some of the federal LE low recoil rounds in stock.I think I will order some too.
I am also intersted in using slugs for target/fun shooting in my benelli.Which slugs would you recomend for that purpose? I my opineon some classic brenneke slugs would be the best choice for that purpose. The foster type slugs are also obtanable, but hey are quite expensive here in austria.
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11-08-2009, 05:49 AM
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Quote:
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IIRC the M4 is a gas gun not an inertia gun and was specifically designed to shoot light LE type loads
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Only the 4-port barrel (which was recalled) was designed for low-recoil rounds. Some M4's function some reduced recoil loads, and some don't function with some. THey are all below optimal.
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