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Old 11-14-2009, 07:50 PM
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Light for my 590?

I have a M590A1 and would like to get a light for it.What are my option?Thanks
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Old 11-14-2009, 08:15 PM
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590 light

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Sure fire, Surefire. If ya have the bayonet lug, just gind it off.
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Old 11-14-2009, 10:51 PM
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Sure fire, Surefire. If ya have the bayonet lug, just gind it off.
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I don't want to grind off the lug!!! Any pics of what will fit?Thanks
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:39 PM
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You'll have to pick a mounting system first.

I recommend going LED for your light or at least a shock isolated bezel if you must have incandescent.

A common mounting solution I see is to simply buy a length of rail, drill your forend and bolt the rail on. You can now mount any rail mounted light you want and have it within easy reach.

I would recommend looking at the Surefire LED lights and the Streamlight TLR-1.

If you don't want to drill your forend, there are various magazine tube clamps out there that can be used to clamp a light to your barrel/magazine tube.

The MT clamp coming out from Candewman might fit the bill for you.
http://www.candewman.com/orderpage.html

Mesa Tactical may have something that will work for you:
http://www.mesatactical.com/index.php?id=58

Or possibly this:
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=594799

Are you trying to retain the use of your bayonet lug? Or you just don't want to grind it off?
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Old 01-27-2010, 06:31 PM
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surefire a-17 adapter will bypass the lug if using the dedicated light forearm. you also need to buy the l-60 lamp assembly
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Old 01-28-2010, 03:51 AM
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Yeah no one wants to grind off the lug but its the best way. Another option is to find one of the old school surefire lights that are more at the 5 or 7 clock position. But good luck with that. When I tried five years back I called probably 50 stores. Stupid but the bayonet lug is cool. Instead I just bought another 590 so 1 has the lug and the other does not. Stupid but who doesnt want to put a bayonet on their shotgun? All this being said I shoot my lighted gun about 90% of the time.
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:24 AM
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Surefire railed forend with mounted light, or Surefire dedicated forend light.

Elsewhere on the site is a post from Buck about a railed forend he liked. Where it is, and whether it was available for a Mossberg, I don't recall.
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Best bang for the buck is hands down a StreamLight TLR-1.
Screw paying out the nose for the highly overrated Surefires.

I have one on my Saiga-12, sits right above my VFG, and I can easily control it with my index finger. For other positions it can be fitted with a endcap/pressure switch.

Can be found with the above accessories for less than $150.
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I have the Mako T-Grip on mine. I like it because I can set it up to have the light come on by simply grabbing the shotgun. No extra movements required. You do need to use a one inch diameter flashlight. I added two little washers to keep from drilling the plastic in case I over tightened and loctite to keep the screws from backing out.I have the same set up on my AR and 10/22 Riger

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Old 02-02-2010, 11:18 AM
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Light retention and reliable activation was a problem for LE agency that used several of the Mako units. A couple more seen in a patrol rifle class left their owners hanging.

I would also be concerned about sympathetic response to light activation from the trigger finger, especially where high volumes of LCDs are found. Upon information and belief, were that method of light activation a good idea we'd be seeing it more.
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Old 02-02-2010, 02:11 PM
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Light retention and reliable activation was a problem for LE agency that used several of the Mako units. A couple more seen in a patrol rifle class left their owners hanging.
I am familiar with both those issues. It was user error. The light was improperly installed by me. Once corrected the light correctly placed at the proper distance from the trigger and tightened down. I used two small washers so prevent drilling through the plastic and Loctite to keep the screw from coming out. I have had no further issue. Thousands of rounds through my shottie without one failure to turn on, cycle (Low, high or strobe) or turn off. It has not fallen out once. Proper maintenance of your weapons prevent most failures. You must also use the proper one inch diameter size flashlight.

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I would also be concerned about sympathetic response to light activation from the trigger finger, especially where high volumes of LCDs are found. Upon information and belief, were that method of light activation a good idea we'd be seeing it more.
To me that is a non issue maybe because it located and operates differently from a conventional trigger. The "trigger" is an integral part of the grip so you are not "pulling the trigger so much as you are squeezing the grip. Meaning it is not a separate trigger from the grip. So you are not reaching out with your trigger finger and pulling the trigger. You are simply grabbing the grip and the light comes on. At least that is my experience. Again I have had thousands of rounds through my shottie, without a single ND. If a piece of equipment or weapon is not 100% reliable I pull it from my arsenal. As a civilian my rules of engagement do not allow me the luxury to screw around. I must be in eminent danger before I can deploy my weapon, that is no time to mess around with crap.

I think that the MAKO T-Grip is a relatively new piece of furniture, already being imitated by some other reputable companies. As people learn about it and how to properly install it. You will find it to be fairly common if not universal piece of gear.

The ability to have a light on by simply grabbing your weapon. Not needing any extra motions and not needing to release your firing grip is a huge benefit.

One caveat the T-Grip has a lock out option to prevent you from turning the light on inadvertently I tried using it to prevent wasting battery power. I don't use it any more because:
A) it adds something extra I must do to turn the light on (push a button on the side)
B) Under stress I forget the light is locked off so I fumble around trying to figure out why it is not working
Once I quit using that feature and properly installed the light I have had zero failures to function on demand.
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Just wanted to say thanks. After reading this thread, I purchased this clamp and the TLR-1 for a older Mossburg Mariner. It fits my needs perfectly.

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