i like this piece a lot... I think it would be killer with an Omega 45K... guess i better start saving
i like this piece a lot... I think it would be killer with an Omega 45K... guess i better start saving
On the seventh day God rested; Marines filled sandbags
This firearm excited me thw most out all the SHOT show coverage that I saw. The round is great all around, save for cost to shoot. I also like that they are using HK standard capacity mags, instead of Kriss' cobbled together extenders that always cause feed issues. I called Noveske this past Monday and they said the firearm was still in the prototype stage, and will most likely be released late spring/ early summer. So that means the "end of Q1" was a bit of a pipe dream. All that said as long as it gets to the market, in original form, I am a buyer. I enjoy PCC's more than any other rifles/ sbr's currently.
In 10mm it doesn't really get me excited.
But in 9x25 I can see a lot of advantages. A 90 grain bullet at 2100 fps, that fits in magazines that are a smaller dimension than a rifle magazine, now just put a law folder on that and you would have a small package that you could carry covert much easier than a rifle due to the smaller sized magazines.
I think that would be a great set up to replace my mini Uzi for going to synagogue with.
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I agree if you used a regular hollowpoint bullet in the 9x25. However I think this load has potential.
https://underwoodammo.com/product/ha...reme-defender/
The gun in 9x25 would give you near rifle like velocity plus the fact it feeds from pistol magazines you could in a covert situation carry the mags easier.
I will give you an example I carry a mini Uzi to synagogue and back up mags enough to meet any incident. I carry a spare 20 round mag in a pouch on my belt and it conceals under a sweater in the winter and a suit coat during the rest of the year. Due to the bigger size of a rifle mag I can't pull off carrying the spare ammo in the same way.
I would love to carry a round that can go 2000fps or a little more if it got good penetration. I carry 124 +P+ in the Uzi and figure I get around 1300fps, this is backed up with Hirtenberger 9mm subgun ammo.
But I don't think I will invest the money on maybe this rifle in 9x25 meeting my specific needs .
I don't carry the mini under my jacket just spare mags which because of their smaller size than rifle mags they are easier to carry concealed. The mini rides in a bag I carry some Jewish items in for synagogue and how much more Jewish can it get than a mini Uzi.
I was also really excited about this. I have a 7.5" 300 BLK, and this would be another cool "PDW" option. It looks like you can load a 200-220 grain bullet at subsonic velocities, and go down to a 135-ish grain that could get to 1500+ in an 8" barrel. I also find a gas operated gun much more interesting than just another blowback option. Hopefully I can get my hands on one and try it out.
Anybody hear any updates?
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On the seventh day God rested; Marines filled sandbags
Recoil should be fairly light.
A close example would be the Sig MPX.
The operating mass should be similar to or lighter than a conventional AR.
I.e. Enough to reliably feed and chamber a round.
Locked breech gas operated guns control cyclic rate primarily with gas port size and location.
Last edited by Clint; 08-26-18 at 11:51.
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