Steroids and Blood Doping for LEO/Mil/Competitive Shooters

[dookie1481]

Go ahead and take steroids. When your dick goes limp come on back here and tell us about it.

Another well-informed post

[theblackknight]

administrative hasstle would outweigh any potential benefits.

That because it's soo tied up in nonessential bullshit as it is.It's designed that way.

[nhskull21]

Umm, I'm confused. How do performance enhancing drugs and gender reassignment surgery have anything to do with each other? Or are you just trying to be antagonistic and insulting?

I agree with steroid use and I am all for it. What I meant to say its funny how the government doesnt want us to be healthy as we can, perform better, or be better at something cause they think hormones are bad and should be illegal to a man wanting to build a better body. But if you want to destroy your body with a sex change you can have all the hormones you want some that bodybuilders would use and they would give them to you legally. Though no doctor would think of giving them to you for enhancement. And even getting TRT is hard. Not insulting anyone just the government-fda-whoever decides what schedule drugs are.

[nhskull21]

While, like most drugs, steroids can be and are used responsibly, I would be worried giving them to soldiers for one primary reason: the roid raging psychopath stereotype. While this is an unfair representation, I'd be concerned that if a soldier who was using steroids got involved in a fire fight and in the heat of things accidentally shot a civilian who looked like they had a weapon, or anything else happened that could potentially call their judgment into question... would the steroid use be held against them?

The military not using these drugs, at least apparently not, makes me wonder if super soldier programs are real or if science fiction movies have been lying to me for 40 years.

Doesnt the airforce still issue "go pills" Some sort of ampehtamine. Or did they stop that?

[kartoffel]

Doesnt the airforce still issue "go pills" Some sort of ampehtamine. Or did they stop that?

Probably modafinil. Not an amphetamine.

[nhskull21]

Yes. However, if missed for extended periods of time, there's going to be a lag time where the HPTA is suppressed and normal production of T returns, and that length and suppression depends on the three Ds. There are drugs that will prevent the HPTA suppression, but that's now another drug one would have to deal with, and poly pharmacy adds complications, costs, etc.



Generally yes. They may counteract the negative effects of being malnourished, but data as it applies directly to conditions face by mil populations is lacking. You may find a post I put up a while back on the effects of training, etc on hormones as they apply to mil interesting, albeit not a perfect fit to the topic at hand:

Effects of Training on Hormones: mil specific



Off the top of my head, AAS can increase bleeding time, which is why people are taken off them prior to surgeries, may alter effects of Coumadin, etc. From one write up:

"The heart drug Cordarone (amiodarone), the ulcer drug Tagamet (cimetidine), anabolic steroids such as Anadrol-50 (oxymetholone) and antibiotics such as Biaxin (clarithromycin), erythromycin or tetracycline can also make bleeding more hazardous for people on Coumadin"

Some AAS appear to have differing effects on that, and I think data is lacking in terms of specific recs.

This. The heightened blood pressure may have an affect of the bleeding issue. Also if if taken during surgery or post surgery antibiotics counter the effects of steroids. So while there fighting off steroids they could not be fully focused on fighting infection. Also some steroids strengthen the ammune system, some weaken it.

[nhskull21]

Go ahead and take steroids. When your dick goes limp come on back here and tell us about it.

Useless waste of bandwidth.

[nhskull21]

Probably modafinil. Not an amphetamine.

I recall it was for fighter pilots maybe pilots in general, dont remember the name. Though I could of sworn it was an amphetamine. There also was a scene in a mike moore movie where some US fighter pilots shot some friendly ground force and blamed it on there "go pills" Some kind of dextroamphetamine maybe? I havent seen it in awhile.

[DaleKohl]

I never used steroids but special supplements like protein, omega, l-carnitin, etc. But most of guys at my gym take steroids and I must confess their results are way better than mine, some of them taking growth hormones 10+ years and they say they're okay with it. I guess everything depends on right dosage and cycle of consuming of HGH, if not abused everything will be ok. I am currently reading some info how HGH impacts weight loss ( here http://genf20plus.info/weight-loss-hgh.php ), I think I will consult a doctor, too, and ask for his opinion.

[CPM]

I agree with steroid use and I am all for it. What I meant to say its funny how the government doesnt want us to be healthy as we can, perform better, or be better at something cause they think hormones are bad and should be illegal to a man wanting to build a better body. But if you want to destroy your body with a sex change you can have all the hormones you want some that bodybuilders would use and they would give them to you legally. Though no doctor would think of giving them to you for enhancement. And even getting TRT is hard. Not insulting anyone just the government-fda-whoever decides what schedule drugs are.

TRT is steroids. Don't let the name or the commercialization fool you.