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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkslinger View Post
    They seem to be giving conflicting information on their website. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, if you're licensed to carry you may do so in an establishment that's liquor sale make up less than 50% of their business. If its over 51% it would be a felony, but the sign would require large red letters. The devils in the details.

    http://www.tabc.state.tx.us/laws/sign_requirements.asp
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    All alcoholic beverages retailers must post one of two firearms signs. One sign is intended for use on the types of premises where a holder of a concealed hand gun license may lawfully possess a concealed hand gun: establishments licensed to sell alcoholic beverages for off-premises consumption or, if licensed for sale for on-premises consumption, establishments whose alcohol sales are 50% or less of total gross receipts. It warns that unlicensed possession of a concealed weapon is a felony.

    The second sign, the 51% sign, is to be posted on the premises of establishments where the possession of any concealed weapon is illegal. These are establishments that are licensed to sell alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption whose alcohol sales constitutes more than half of gross receipts. These signs have 51% in large red letters superimposed over the warning and the warning notes that possession of a concealed weapon on the premises is a felony.
    It is illegal to drink alcohol at liquor stores/convenient stores so it is perfectly legal to CCW in them, I carry every time I go to a liquor store and or gas station. As for the 51% that is for bars/pubs/clubs where the majority of the business is from alcohol sales for on-site consumption. While most restaurants sell alcohol the majority of their income is derived from food sales.
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    In Ohio, the signage thing can be confusing. If the sign has the specific Ohio law code at the bottom, it carries weight I believe. If it does not have the Ohio code, then it is just a "we don't like your kind here" sign. How would someone know unless you are carrying openly?? A mall that I sometimes frequent with my kids (indoor playground) has signs at each MALL entrance. However.....If someone were to enter via the Macys entrance, NO signs whatsoever. No signs seen going from Macys into the mall itself either. What say you on this matter??? Is it still legal? Can I play dumb and say I entered via Macys and didn't see any signs??

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    What's the worst that could happen if you ccw?

    Moose, what type of establishment is that particular sign from?

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    Do check your state laws, periodically as well. Previously in Kansas, only proper signage had any weight, and it was just a misdemeanor. Now the signs have no weight, unless it is a Federally prohibited place. This only changed July 1.

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    In AZ we hardly ever had signs like this in private locations until the law was revised to allow concealed carry in bars and restaraunts. As it is now, the sign has to be a particular size and lettering and it must be posted with the business/liquor license.

    If you enter one of these locations all they can ask you to do is leave. If you refuse then it's a different story.



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    That sign cracks me up. You think they did section "30.06" because section 7.62x51 was unworkable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkslinger View Post
    First off, if you're carrying "concealed" they should never know..
    End of story, and as long as you look like half-way respectable citizen and gun should print(bending over,reaching up,etc.) people will think cell phone/case before gun.... On side note I do love how they are makin them smart phones bigger & bigger, makes it easier for me to CCW.
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    I repeat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skintop911 View Post
    I repeat...

    Be neatly dressed.
    Be neatly groomed.
    Be well behaved.
    Speak in complete sentences.

    Be boring, and you'll find yourself unbothered.
    Be sober as well. Goes without saying, but still needs to be mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkslinger View Post
    Moose, what type of establishment is that particular sign from?
    The sign I posted could be from any business that so chooses to put it up and bar CCW holders from entering their building. I've only seen it on two businesses here a Taco Cabana that IIRC was an independently owned franchise and Jared jewelers.
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