RS Regulate or TX Weapon Systems? Which is the better AK mounting solution?

lloydkristmas · #1 05-09-12, 00:14

What would be the advantages/disadvantages to one system over the other?

Cowitness and zero repeatability are the things I want most.

The RS Reg side mount is QD, where as the TWS is a straight up swap of the top cover/rear sight.

I kind of like the idea of being able to pop off the optic at any time, but if it cowitnesses anyway, maybe thats not so crucial?

Thoughts?

kmrtnsn · #2 05-09-12, 00:56

Knowing your intended optic is key here.

lloydkristmas · #3 05-09-12, 01:12

It would probably depend on which path I chose, honestly. The Micro would cowitness on the TWS, but the 30mm M2 that I already have would cowitness with the RS.

kmrtnsn · #4 05-09-12, 01:40

I'd go with the RS. Gabe Saurez (I know, I know), a rabid supporter of the TWS system recently became a RS convert.

Aries144 · #5 05-09-12, 08:34

I used to run a Russian 4x optic and Comp M2 interchangeably using my rifle's side mount and have switched to an all-time-attached Aimpoint R-1 mounted on a TWS.

I found that weight and the weapon's point of balance were more important to me since the AK was already starting off heavier and more muzzle heavy than a comparably equipped AR.

The micro Aimpoint and TWS combo is lighter and will cowitness. The iron sights the TWS gives you are also great if you like peep sights. The ONLY thing I miss about the sidemount is being able to quickly switch to magnified optics, though there was an issue with that.

My experience switching back forth from red dot to magnified sidemount optics was that there was slight, but detectable, shift around 1-2 moa. The mount system may be capable of better repeatability than that with more precise adjustment of the mounts, but that was my experience.

I'm currently considering options to get magnification on my weapon again. Either finding a sidemount optic that can clear the Aimpoint to the side, above it or even moving the micro Aimpoint forward on the rail and attaching a magnifier behind it. I like the idea of keeping the weight off the weapon until I need it by using a sidemounted optic.

RS makes the lightest sidemounts made. Mounting an optic with their sidemount will only be a few oz heavier than the TWS. You get the quick detach for using other eastern optics, but you lose the rear peep sight, the mounting position flexibility of the rail, and the option to try a behind-the-optic magnifier.

Chris17404 · #6 05-09-12, 09:00

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Originally Posted by kmrtnsn

I'd go with the RS. Gabe Saurez (I know, I know), a rabid supporter of the TWS system recently became a RS convert.

kmrtnsn... did Gabe discuss this on his forum? If so, would you be able to post (or IM me) the link?

Chris

kmrtnsn · #7 05-09-12, 09:12

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Originally Posted by Chris17404

kmrtnsn... did Gabe discuss this on his forum? If so, would you be able to post (or IM me) the link?

Chris

http://www.warriortalk.com/showthrea...light=rs+mount

96 SS · #8 05-09-12, 14:38

I'll stay out of this and let others tell you their thoughts. If you have any specific questions I can answer, public or private let me know.

lloydkristmas · #9 05-09-12, 20:20

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Originally Posted by 96 SS

I'll stay out of this and let others tell you their thoughts. If you have any specific questions I can answer, public or private let me know.

Everything I've read and heard about your stuff speaks for itself, I have zero doubts about the quality of your product. In this case its more a matter of deciding what optic I want to use. My optic choice will likely dictate my mount choice, and I dont forsee being disappointed one way or the other.

Alaskapopo · #10 05-09-12, 20:53

RS regulate makes a good product and its the best I have seen so far for the AK line. I own one for the micro aimpoint and one for the 30mm aimpoints.
Pat

96 SS · #11 05-10-12, 00:55

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Originally Posted by lloydkristmas

My optic choice will likely dictate my mount choice, and I dont forsee being disappointed one way or the other.

A bunch more options coming down the pipe soon.
Switching machine shops has really helped us improve things speed wise.

AKFAN · #12 05-10-12, 21:35

I switched from the Ultimak to the RS, no regret. I run a Micro H1 on my AK-74 and its a great combo with the RS mount. I have no experience with the TWS

paul556 · #13 05-12-12, 12:42

from personal experience i vastly prefer the RS or midwest side mounts to the TWS. i had two TWS mounts and they just felt flimsy to me,especiall the hinge area where they attach. in all honesty after using them i just lost confidence in long term durability and reliability. its a neat product if they could beef it up it would be a great product.

charmcitycop · #14 05-12-12, 16:57

Very interesting

Fail-Safe · #15 05-13-12, 14:03

Having used the TWS Dogleg Gen, I can tell you there is nothing "flimsy" about it. It is durable, well made, and works just fine with a variety of Aimpoints and magnified optics

I have no experience with the RS, so I cannot comment.

Redmanfms · #16 05-13-12, 14:13

I prefer the RS over the TWS. It ends up being less expensive (once you add a rear sight to the TWS), has better zero repeatability, and doesn't require any other changes to the rifle.

I've tried both, and was a long-time user of the UltiMAK (well, I still use them, I simply don't have enough money to replace them on all of my weapons, and the system does work quite well). The RS is the best system of the 3.

Gundahar · #17 05-14-12, 14:39

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I prefer the RS over the TWS. It ends up being less expensive (once you add a rear sight to the TWS)

The rear peep sight is very expensive for what it is, but it also adds a lot of sight radius to the AK platform, plus you get a close-to-the-eye peep over the notch and post. So its not a true apples to apples comparison.

The RS regulate gets you the optic.
The TWS rail + peep sight gets you the optic and superior irons as well.
Which is better depends on what you think of the AK iron sights in the first place, I'd imagine.

I haven't been able to get my TWS rail "out of zero" on anything yet. But I keep trying

Gundahar

Aries144 · #18 05-15-12, 04:21

I haven't had any zero issues or durability problems with my TWS. The cover is thick aluminum and is reinforced with steel where it needs to be- like the adjustment screw holes.

My rifle is inspected and cleaned regularly and I haven't noticed any shift upon use at the following match.

I found it important to install it with the rear sight leaf spring in place and would recommend bending the side tension tab in if the cover isn't tight at the rear.

The RS mount is probably the easier and cheaper solution, but I wouldn't trade my TWS for one. To me, it's worth the little extra money and time spent getting it installed correctly to be able to have the weight savings, the rear peep, and be able to mount my R-1 at the rear of the receiver.

If those things plus the rail length aren't important to you, go with the RS. I suggest considering a Russian sidemount magnified optic in addition- they're very nice for the money and can be switched with your red dot/RS mount in seconds.

big 54r · #19 05-15-12, 13:12

I would like to know if any of you have tried an Aimpoint Pro in this mount?

paul556 · #20 05-15-12, 16:46

i'll be putting an aimpoint pro on an arsenal i'll be getting soon. i'll be going with either the RS or MI side mount,haven't decided yet