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Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking for a reason not to like this stuff. Prior to using it, I cleaned off the clp that was previously used by spraying everything with brake cleaner. Then I further cleaned everything with alcohol. For the initial application I used a heat gun to heat up the disassembled parts of the bcg and applied the paste with a brush. After it cooled I wiped off the excess. I did the same inside the upper. For the barrel I just used the liquid. Then I repeated all of that again on another day. Since then, I just wipe/swab everything after shooting and lube it with the liquid mostly as with any other clp product, wiping off excess everywhere except inside the bcg.
I'm not concerned about how the weapon works once it gets warmed up (even a little). My concern is just when the weapon is cold, the bolt is very sticky in the bcg to the point that I'm a little worried it wouldn't go into battery. I've had that happen before, although not because of a lube or clp. I had an unknown substance inside the bcg and it gummed it up to the point that the bolt would hardly move (I think it was loctite in there). I realize you guys may consider this to be overthinking the situation. I just wanted to make sure I'm not doing something wrong with the Froglube, that's all.
ETA: I believe I asked about the Froglube reacting with other lubes or clp products in a previous post. This is one reason why I asked about that. I really don't think there is anything there other than the Froglube at this point.
Last edited by krichbaum; 01-07-12 at 20:24.
anybody received their sample yet? I have not heard a peep but am very excited to try it out
I put froglube on my suppressed carbean today. I had topped it off before, but that was on top of other lubes and filth.
I wiped all the old lube off and Frogged my bean. Shit! This stuff is noticeably better. Working the BCG manually feels like it's on glass. I can't wait to shoot it and relube and repeat to see.
I wish someone had turned me on to this stuff for gun lube earlier.
Last edited by markm; 01-07-12 at 20:44.
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Owner/Instructor at Semper Paratus Arms
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I just received a new Noveske upper yesterday. I used some Slip 725 to clean of the BCG and the inside of the upper receiver. After heating the BCG I slathered the paste on. Smells delightful, I'm almost a little excited to get gassed out when the can comes in...
As IG stated, I didn't wipe off the excess. It seems to stay on the BCG without working its way into the lower or out of the weapon.
My rifle was sitting outside for a few hours today before I got a chance to sight it in, the temp was probably around 38F. The FrogLube was thick and 'pasty' just as it should be but the action was still smooth when I racked the charging handle and let it slam home (don't ride it), no issues at all. It was nice and wet after the first few shots.
I caved and ordered some from Brownell's a while back.
Subjective observations follow below:
- Frog Lube does help remove grime and carbon. I like being able to get "hands-on" without worrying about poisonous junk on my skin.
- Frog Lube melts at a lower temperature than I had expected, versus, say, Ox Yoke or Bore Butter. Viscosity while liquid leaves a bit to be desired if you wish to depend on FL as a boundary lubricant.
- Frog Lube leaves a pleasant waxy (not greasy, IMHO) film behind which appears to do a decent job of sealing metal surfaces against external sources of oxidation.
- Unlike comparable non-petroleum products for the muzzleloading market, Frog Lube does not freeze rock hard, nor does it get hard enough to crack. If you're OK with Frog Lube at room temperature, I think it will treat you well in freezing temperatures too.
FL is now my #1 choice for wiping down knives. It smells better than Ballistol, and is simpler to apply than Renaissance Wax.
Oh no, not another lube thread! Read this first: Lubrication 101.
I like your "Deferred maintenance is for doomed weapons.". I think this is great to use as a quote. To many people shot and put away. Cleaning and proper maint of weapons of weapons. I have gone to dry lubrication instead of the wet and gummy stuff. Try Rem® Drilube™. Teflon-based lubricant provides a tough, non-congealing film without the residue of dry graphite lubes.
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