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    Modern 38 Super

    Is there any modern 38 super defensive ammo? Sig v crown seems ok, but I'd it equivalent to hst/gd? Is anybody stuffing 357 sig bullets into 38 super cases?

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    Check out Wilson Combat. I believe they have a DPX load.

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    A Speer GD 124gr bullet would be perfect at standard 38 Super velocities. You could get the performance of the famous 9mm Speer GD 124+P load just by loading the same bullet to standard 38 Super ballistics. If only a major manufacturer would pick up on this.
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    I load my carry ammo for Super.

    Accepted wisdom is that this is inadvisable.
    However, a righteous shoot is a righteous shoot. I'm prepared to face any consequences if that may result from this decision.

    The 125 gr. Gold Dot (SIG) bullets are designed for 1400 FPS+-. Loaded at that velocity they are low end .357's in an eleven/ten round pistol.
    Another favorite is the 147 gr. GD at 1150+ FPS.

    I find the recoil impulse of the 147 gr. load similar to standard pressure, .45 ACP, 230 gr. Ball. It is "easier" to shoot than the 125 gr. load- for me.
    Both loads are accurate and have laser trajectories- in comparison to the .45 ACP.
    Not much trick in making A/C shots to 100 yds. with these loads.

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    Thanks for the links. I thought about loading my own, but as you already mentioned the legal aspect gives me second thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taekwondopreacher View Post
    A Speer GD 124gr bullet would be perfect at standard 38 Super velocities. You could get the performance of the famous 9mm Speer GD 124+P load just by loading the same bullet to standard 38 Super ballistics. If only a major manufacturer would pick up on this.
    I'm an idiot, albeit a happy one. It looks like Underwood makes the exact load I was describing.

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    .38 Super - Making the .357 Sig irrelevant since 1929. I never understood why this round was overlooked during the whole time the whole 9mm/10mm/.40S&W fiasco happened in the late 80's through the mid 90's.

    taekwondopreacher's right, a 124 grain Gold Dot and a healthy dose of AA#7 or V-VN105 would make even the most violent felon rethink the bad decisions he'd have made over the years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaholder View Post
    .38 Super - Making the .357 Sig irrelevant since 1929. I never understood why this round was overlooked during the whole time the whole 9mm/10mm/.40S&W fiasco happened in the late 80's through the mid 90's.

    taekwondopreacher's right, a 124 grain Gold Dot and a healthy dose of AA#7 or V-VN105 would make even the most violent felon rethink the bad decisions he'd have made over the years...
    I just wish I could get the 357 sig bullet (something like an HST) loaded from the factory at velocities approaching 9x23mm. Is that too much to ask?

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    Cor-bon makes a 115gr and 125gr +P DPX, as well as Pow'RBall and Glaser rounds


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