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    Suppressor approved...gun shop went out of buisness. What to do now?

    So a friend of mine bought a SDN6 and while waiting on the paperwork to get approved the shop declared bankruptcy and shut down. The owner never called him and informed him that his papers were approved back in April. The shop used their efile email so friend had no idea they were approved months before they shut down. On top of that, the owner never mentioned to him that they were closing up shop, they just made an facebook post saying they were closed and he was like WTF.

    Now the dealer has the suppressor and friend has contacted the NFA to figure out what to do. NFA basically told him to pound sand and it is not their problem and to get a lawyer. The owner refuses to call my friend and only responds by email rarely. He told the owner he was going to get a lawyer and the owner was like that is fine I'll give him my bankruptcy lawyer's number.

    Needless to say my friend is pretty pissed right now and I am just trying to see if anyone might have any information on what to do.

    Thoughts?
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    I'm no expert, but from my limited knowledge of bankruptcy there isn't much he can do.

    The transfer was never made, so he doesn't own the suppressor. The dealer classified his payment as unearned revenue, and barring any strange state law, the bankruptcy cleared him of that liability.

    A lawyer will cost far more than another SDN6 will cost.
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    Did said friend actually purchase the suppressor from the dealer? If he forked out a grand for the can and the payment was processed, how can it be said he doesn't "own" it? He would have paid for the can, paid the $200 tax stamp to have been approved... So gun shop owner gets to keep the money and the can? That doesn't make sense...

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    If the Form 4 was approved he's supposed to have 90 days to transfer it, otherwise he's in illegal possession. I'm not a lawyer.

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    Everything was paid for up front the suppressor and the tax. The form was actually approved in June I said April early by mistake either way its almost 6 months.

    Euro, I understand what you are saying but would the dealer not be in some kind of illegal ownership as the suppressor was transferred by the shop and now he has it in his individual possession.

    Sinister, do you know where I can find that?

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    Sinister, I guess you were right. I told friend what you said and he called the NFA and they told him the same thing. Friend is now in contact with the local Sheriff and NFA office. We shall see what happens next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinister View Post
    If the Form 4 was approved he's supposed to have 90 days to transfer it, otherwise he's in illegal possession. I'm not a lawyer.
    This, inform the ATF of this and let the former shop owner know you are doing it....my guess is his attitude will change.

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    I don't have much to add onto what has already been stated. I believe the shop owner will be f***ed by the long dick of the law, but I'm not a lawyer or NFA expert. Keep us informed on how this turns out. I'm interested to see where it goes

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    Is the shop in PA (Gun Dealer Online)?

    I had a similar situation (guy stole 1,800 from me). My credit card company after months of fighting reimbursed me 90% of my money.


    Moral of story, only buy cans that are in stock (or from a large internet company like Silencer shop to transfer), and from businesses in good standing (check BBB, etc. ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by domestique View Post
    Is the shop in PA (Gun Dealer Online)?

    I had a similar situation (guy stole 1,800 from me). My credit card company after months of fighting reimbursed me 90% of my money.


    Moral of story, only buy cans that are in stock (or from a large internet company like Silencer shop to transfer), and from businesses in good standing (check BBB, etc. ).

    This was from a local business and that had been established for around 2 years or so. The suppressor was in stock at the time of purchase.

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