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Drop in Quad Rail question

Hello all. Been thinking about getting a drop in carbine length quad rail. My question to you seasoned folks is this: What drop in quad rail is the slimmest, or least bulky? Any input appreciated.
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You might be interested in both the Samson EVO and the Troy TRX series. Both are slim, and rail sections can be added to them as you see fit. I have an EVO and love it. It's incredibly light, and you don't have to be gripping on uncomfortable rails all the time.

edit: I missed the drop in part, sorry. Neither of these are drop in, both are free floating.

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For a drop in system I can't think of anything slimmer than the Daniel Defense Omegas
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Awesome chart man! However, its all free float specifications. But that chart is very well done. I'll bookmark it for posterity. I like the slim profile of the DD Omega, but not the price. I know nothing about rails, just stumbled on a Troy drop in. Anybody have any input on the Troy? The Midwest Industries looks good too, but damn they're bulky.
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Thank rob_s for the chart...I just provided the link. If it were me I would get the Troy TRX Extreme or the VTAC Extreme.
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I've had a look at options suggested. Theres so many, its really hard to make a decision. Aesthetics play a large part. I'm set on getting a drop in, I don't want to take it to a gunsmith or invest in tools to install myself. I like the idea of being able to disassemble. Please keep making suggestions guys, the markets so saturated, I'll never see it all on my own.

Note: I just had a look at a UTG....... Its 60 bucks. I'll assume its a pos. Or does price just merit finish quality?
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If you're in it for looks, you're asking the wrong crowd. We as a community are more geared towards functionality than aesthetics (although it's a nice benefit if it has both.) May I ask why you would ever need to disassemble it? I can't think of a single reason why you would need to. The market seems to be moving away from quad rails and switching back to Free Float Tubes. I think you'd be perfectly happy with a MOE handguard to start or even the TRX Extreme I mentioned earlier.

P.S. Just mentioning UTG shows that you haven't spent anytime reading the stickies or any of the major posts. I would strongly suggest that you take the time to read those before you start investing into these items.
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My USGI KAC on my 6920 is 2.24 inches wide, and 2.3 inches high.
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What do you want the rail for?

Personally, the time, effort, and cost involved, even to install a rail system makes free-floating a requirement for me personally. I can't think of any reason I'd install a railed handguard that would make me willing to deal with a non-free-float.

That said, if my reason was "aesthetics" I'd probably spend the money on ammo and go shoot and see if I could get my mind right.
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If you like the Omega, but don't like the price, search the EE for a used one. I'd take a used Omega over many of the other games in town any day of the week.

It's a great rail. I have one and love it, I'd use that upper a lot more often if it wasn't for the fact that I'm not a huge fan of 7" rails anymore.

You get what you pay for, and if you don't want to change ANYTHING on your gun, the DD Omega is where it's at.
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My USGI KAC on my 6920 is 2.24 inches wide, and 2.3 inches high.
If you're submitting that info to add to the spreadsheet, contact rob_s. He is the man responsible for the info.

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Some of these, as well as at least one other not listed on the chart, can be "dropped in" by simply cutting off the delta ring and spring assembly. They attach to the stock barrel nut without removing the FSB. These models include the DD Omega and Centurion. If you have a low-pro gas block or would cut it down you could use the new DD MFR. Like Rob said, if I'm going to add the expense of a new quad rail, I would spend the few bucks extra and make it a free float rail. Another advantage to this is the fact that some of these new free float rails also have QD sling attachments or bolt on rail sections to keep weight down where you don't need the rail.
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Try the Troy "Delta Drop-In" or the Charlie if you like a longer bottom rail.

It's like the TRX Extreme except it gives you your FSB so it requires no gun-smithing or any type of work except the removal of your old hand guard.

http://troyind.com/%20/rail-systemsa...ttlerail-delta
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If you're submitting that info to add to the spreadsheet, contact rob_s. He is the man responsible for the info.
Rob's chart is for free floats.
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What about the Centurion Arms C4 rail system?

http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=sho...roduct_id=2483
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The Centurion Arms rails are hard to beat for "lightweight".
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The Centurion Arms rails are hard to beat for "lightweight".
I'd have to agree, they seem to be the Bee's Knee's as of late for quad rails. I'm holding out to see what The Noveske NSR is going to be like.
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What do you want the rail for?

Personally, the time, effort, and cost involved, even to install a rail system makes free-floating a requirement for me personally. I can't think of any reason I'd install a railed handguard that would make me willing to deal with a non-free-float.

That said, if my reason was "aesthetics" I'd probably spend the money on ammo and go shoot and see if I could get my mind right.
I want the rail so I may add accessories. I currently have a flashlight, and vertical grip. I bought a small rail section to clamp on the bottom of the stock handgurds, but it flexes when I grip it. It feels cheap. I want to experiment with different placements of these items. I want the added rigidity. I don't believe the accuracy is profoundly benefited by a free float. A drop in will serve me fine. I also want the rail, so I can hang out with the cool kids at the range.
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I want the rail so I may add accessories. I currently have a flashlight, and vertical grip. I bought a small rail section to clamp on the bottom of the stock handgurds, but it flexes when I grip it. It feels cheap. I want to experiment with different placements of these items. I want the added rigidity. I don't believe the accuracy is profoundly benefited by a free float. A drop in will serve me fine. I also want the rail, so I can hang out with the cool kids at the range.
This smells of Troll. Why wouldn't you be able to mount the flashlight and vg on the above mentioned systems...they all have that capability. Also, all those cool kids on the range most likely don't know two fucks about what they're doing. If that's the crowd you'd like to join they all congregate on TOS.
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