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Selling my M&P......

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I have a coworker whom is wanting to buy my Smith M&P15. The price negotiated is $1000, which is just north of what I bought it for a couple of years ago. It has been a good rifle, no problems that I can think of. I put an MI 2 piece rail on it, a Surefire G2 in a Viking Tactics mount, a TD short vert grip, MP pistol grip, and an LMT SOPMOD butt stock, VTAC 2 point sling and an MI fixed rear BUIS. It also has a Aimpoint which will not be sold with the rifle.
Here is my question.....
If you were in my shoes, would you sell the rifle as is (minus the Aimpoint) or put some of the original accessories back on the rifle? My coworker has not seen the rifle, but I have told him about some of the features (minus the actual names of some of the accessories). I feel that in its current version, $1000 sounds like he is getting an awesome deal. I have an old UTG rail, the original buttstock and pistol grip and a basic vertical grip. Would you swap out some of the stuff or leave as is? Thank you for your replies.
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You already negotiated a price for it.
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I would have switched it back before you settled on a price. At this point, you gave the guy a great deal.
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If I were in your shoes I wouldn't sell someone (let alone a coworker) a rifle with shit parts. Doing it after negotiating a deal wouldn't even enter into my thought process.
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If I were in your shoes I wouldn't sell someone (let alone a coworker) a rifle with shit parts. Doing it after negotiating a deal wouldn't even enter into my thought process.
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I agree I think you should leave it as is. You already agreed on a price with its current configuration and you should keep it that way
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As one of my finest Battalion Commanders once said: "Integrity isn't a hat you can take on and off."

You negotiated a price on the rifle as is. Your co-worker negotiated in good faith. Now you want to stick him with a bunch of low-price crap to make your profit higher?

Sell it as is.
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Ok, it will be sold as is.
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As one of my finest Battalion Commanders once said: "Integrity isn't a hat you can take on and off."

You negotiated a price on the rifle as is. Your co-worker negotiated in good faith. Now you want to stick him with a bunch of low-price crap to make your profit higher?

Sell it as is.
Well said. The question should never have entered your mind but if it did and your co-worker started researching his AR (which he will) you now have a very awkward working relationship to deal with. No back peddling from there and you become "that guy".
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I feel that in its current version, $1000 sounds like he is getting an awesome deal.
Why is he getting an awesome deal? I don't think most people on this board would tell him to buy it at 1k.


As far as changing things after you made a deal, that speaks to integrity, you either have it or you don't.
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"COC Violation"

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As far as changing things after you made a deal, that speaks to integrity, you either have it or you don't.
Yep. This is my thought as well.
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[quote=Stickman;1468882]Why is he getting an awesome deal? I don't think most people on this board would tell him to buy it at 1k.

My first thought also...
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A little "used car salesman" shenanigans is what that would be.
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deuce71 already stated he would sell it as is at 05:55. Is there really any reason to bust his chops since then?
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deuce71 already stated he would sell it as is at 05:55. Is there really any reason to bust his chops since then?
If anyone post's something like he did their "chops are going to get busted". Plus a lot of people will read the op then comment.

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I would not buy the rifle in its current configuration for 1K. For another $50 or so you could get a brand new Colt.

I would not switch the parts out do not take advantage of his lack of knowledge of the AR platform.
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The rifle will be sold as is. I am not going to change out anything on the rifle except remove the Aimpoint per my coworkers request. I did suggest to him that he could go buy a new rifle (Colt, BCM) but he declined. I asked him why and he said he wanted a rifle that had already had some rounds through it. Ok, why buy used through me? To avoid paperwork............
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The rifle will be sold as is. I am not going to change out anything on the rifle except remove the Aimpoint per my coworkers request. I did suggest to him that he could go buy a new rifle (Colt, BCM) but he declined. I asked him why and he said he wanted a rifle that had already had some rounds through it. Ok, why buy used through me? To avoid paperwork............
Could there be a reason that he would be denied when they run his check at a gun dealer?
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