Desert Tactical Arms

Go Back   M4Carbine.net Forums > General Firearms > Other Assault Rifles

Other Assault Rifles M14, AK, FAL, UZI, etc.

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Unread 03-15-08, 23:52
armakraut's Avatar
armakraut Offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: AZ
Posts: 2,247
iTrader: (24)
Reproduction semi-auto Wunderwaffe (STG44 & MP38)

Just saw this ad, looks like IO might be trying to bring in (or build up) some of the German SSD reproductions. You now know about as much as me, which ain't a heck of a lot.

Templar, military reenactors, and those that think $4,000 is a great price to own the only STG-44 on their block should be pleased.

If IO did open up a supply line to SSD, the FG42 won't be too far behind.







__________________
"Life is short, but the years are long." - Robert A. Heinlein
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Unread 03-15-08, 23:56
Misc Ex-Member Offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 6,040
iTrader: (13)
I think those are damn neat but I personally won't pay that kind of money for one.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Unread 03-15-08, 23:59
Business_Casual's Avatar
Business_Casual Offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 2,724
iTrader: (0)
Good enough for the Wehrmacht, good enough for... erm, someone wealthy.

M_P
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Unread 03-16-08, 10:40
TOrrock's Avatar
TOrrock Offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: VA
Posts: 6,543
iTrader: (8)
Hell yeah!

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/8mm_Kurz.html








Seeing as how the least expensive transferrable I've seen was $15K and it was trashed......$4K is a deal, especially when you consider tool up costs and the US dollar shitting the bed vs. the Euro.
__________________
Employee of colonialshooting.com
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Unread 03-16-08, 17:09
Spooky130's Avatar
Spooky130 Online
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 932
iTrader: (0)
Very cool... Very expensive... With AIM's ammo at $9.25/20 it is only slightly more expensive than a lot of 5.56 ammo anymore...

Spooky
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Unread 03-16-08, 20:30
Joe R. Offline
Industry Professional
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 432
iTrader: (0)
I'd really like to have an STG-44, even a semi-auto one. But $4k might be a bit more then I'd be willing to swing for it.


Unless somebody needs to buy a kidney....
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Unread 03-16-08, 21:30
Buck's Avatar
Buck Offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: City of Angels
Posts: 1,796
iTrader: (4)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe R. View Post
Unless somebody needs to buy a kidney....
left or right??? What ya got???
__________________
MossieTactics.com ~ KMA 367
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Unread 03-16-08, 22:31
armakraut's Avatar
armakraut Offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: AZ
Posts: 2,247
iTrader: (24)
Don't know if I'll go for one, but tempted... I am.
__________________
"Life is short, but the years are long." - Robert A. Heinlein
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Unread 03-16-08, 22:44
IrishDevil's Avatar
IrishDevil Offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Gulf Coast, MS
Posts: 472
iTrader: (25)
If I only had the coin! I'd love to get my hands on one of those.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Unread 03-16-08, 23:42
Joe R. Offline
Industry Professional
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 432
iTrader: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buck View Post
left or right??? What ya got???
Well right now I still have both...they are just a bit used by the way...
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Unread 03-17-08, 02:43
Army Chief's Avatar
Army Chief Online
SENIOR STAFF / ADMIN
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Fort Bragg
Posts: 2,711
iTrader: (8)
http://www.ssd-weapon.com/

This news broke here in Germany about two years ago, and Visier magazine (the preeminent shooting mags over here) conducted a comprehensive shooting test on them last year. There were some minor wear problems at the 3,000 round mark, but nothing too serious -- and this is wholly consistent with the characteristics of the originals. Quality is sky high, and accuracy/shootability were generally quite good.

The problem, as observed elsewhere, is the price. Since these are essentially hand-built, they are already prohibitively expensive by German standards, and given the exchange rate right now, that puts them in "nice used car" territory for those of us on the US Dollar. I'm glad they brought the StG back, but I probably won't ever own one.

Chief
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Unread 03-19-08, 16:07
VA_Dinger's Avatar
VA_Dinger Online
SENIOR STAFF
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Virginia
Posts: 4,887
iTrader: (3)
I will be all over these.

Please let us know when any new updates become available.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Unread 04-01-08, 09:44
MT Predator's Avatar
MT Predator Offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 24
iTrader: (0)
I have a buddy who has a real MP-40. Very fun to shoot and very easy to control.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Unread 04-01-08, 10:26
Buck's Avatar
Buck Offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: City of Angels
Posts: 1,796
iTrader: (4)
Quote:
Originally Posted by MT Predator View Post
I have a buddy who has a real MP-40. Very fun to shoot and very easy to control.
Ive got a buddy with a Sherman tank and he says the same thing....
__________________
MossieTactics.com ~ KMA 367
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Unread 04-04-08, 09:21
MT Predator's Avatar
MT Predator Offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 24
iTrader: (0)
Not sure where your buddy is finding rounds for his Sherman but my friend has no ammo issues.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Unread 04-04-08, 09:40
MT Predator's Avatar
MT Predator Offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 24
iTrader: (0)
My 12 year old with a 1942 MP-40. Click the pic.
http://
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Unread 04-04-08, 10:19
Larry Vickers's Avatar
Larry Vickers Offline
Subject Matter Expert
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 983
iTrader: (0)
My advice (as a Sturmgewehr owner) is if you even DREAM that someday you would like one you need to jump all over the semi auto Stg - they have never been offered before and history has told us repeatedly that offerings like this do not last

The Sturmgewehr is my single favorite weapon - the coolest of the cool - and even though I have one (pictured here on M4C) I am in line for one of the I.O. guns - actually one of the very first in line

Don't hesitate if you are considering it

Cheers

Larry Vickers

www.vickerstactical.com
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Unread 04-04-08, 10:30
Boss Hogg Offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 934
iTrader: (1)
I had the pleasure of shooting LAV's full-auto variant at a class (thanks Larry) and it is a definitive example that the Germans were wwwaaaayyyy ahead of their time in weapons development.

Aren't genuine NFA versions around $12k? I can't see paying $4k for a semi-auto repro, but if you can, great!
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Unread 04-04-08, 12:17
TOrrock's Avatar
TOrrock Offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: VA
Posts: 6,543
iTrader: (8)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss Hogg View Post
I had the pleasure of shooting LAV's full-auto variant at a class (thanks Larry) and it is a definitive example that the Germans were wwwaaaayyyy ahead of their time in weapons development.

Aren't genuine NFA versions around $12k? I can't see paying $4k for a semi-auto repro, but if you can, great!
Uh....keep going.

The cheapest I've seen was a trashed re-weld and it was $15K.

Quality rewats are $18~$19K, and C&R's are more than that....
__________________
Employee of colonialshooting.com
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Unread 04-04-08, 14:59
Army Chief's Avatar
Army Chief Online
SENIOR STAFF / ADMIN
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Fort Bragg
Posts: 2,711
iTrader: (8)
True enough: correct StG's have always been on the high end of the price spectrum, even prior to 1986. Back when nice Colt M-16A1s were going for $2,000 to $2,500, and registered receiver HK MP-5s were $3,000 to $3,500, original un-cut Sturmgewehrs were still a real bargain at anything under $7,500. Obviously, that's a situation that has only grown worse over time.

Fast forward to today. The problem with the new semi rifle, as stated earlier, is that the current exchange rate is absolutely killing us, and what was a pricey weapon to start with (by our standards, anyway) has only grown more costly as the Dollar has utterly tanked against the Euro. It's a real shame, too, because our window of opportunity (in a legal sense) may well be closed before most of us can gather enough cash to even make a bid for ownership.

Chief
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 23:40.


Powered by vBulletin® Version
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.