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Preview of 300 Fireball SBR bulid


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I have a super-trick suppressor in the works that will reduce the OAL between about 2.5 and 5" vs. the pictured one (which is a regular 9" .308 model).

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Looks awesome, Zak


Bring it with you next time you come down!





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very cool zak, any range report yet?
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Only had a couple afternoons to do load testing, but so far I have a subsonic 210gr load that cycles the action and will lock the bolt back. My 240gr load will cycle, but not lock the bolt back. The 125's shoot at 2050 fps with 17.0gr H110. I zeroed the subs @ 50 yards with a TA11, and the 125's impact 8 MOA higher.

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I'm not familiar with the 300 Fireball. What is the parent case? Easy to reload?

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It's a .221 fireball case.
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can't you make those out of a .223 case as well?
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one more Q...

how is that thing as a deer round? seems like you could load it to 7.62x39 ballistics... maybe hotter?

should i just start drinking the 6.8 SPC koolaid?
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You can make it with .223 cases as well and load it to 7.62 Soviet ballistics but you need an adjustable gas block. Or so I hear.
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how do you like the redding dies ? I'm looking to buy dies for my 300 whisper project.
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The Redding dies are fine.
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one more Q...

how is that thing as a deer round? seems like you could load it to 7.62x39 ballistics... maybe hotter?

should i just start drinking the 6.8 SPC koolaid?
Seriously, don't overthink this. .223 can work as a good deer round with the right bullet selection. So can 6.8SPC, 6.5 Grendel, 300 Whisper/Fireball, 7.62x39, etc.

I built a Fireball because I wanted something short and suppressed. My 6.8SPC is 18" and is very long with a can on. A
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Seriously, don't overthink this. .223 can work as a good deer round with the right bullet selection. So can 6.8SPC, 6.5 Grendel, 300 Whisper/Fireball, 7.62x39, etc.

I built a Fireball because I wanted something short and suppressed. My 6.8SPC is 18" and is very long with a can on. A
cool..
i read up a little more on 300 whisper. i guess it was originally designed as a hard hitting high accuracy subsonic round. neat.

what bullet weights have you been using?


i've got a pretty hard hitting 75 grain load for .223 that should suffice for hunting.
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See post #4.

WRT .223, the bullet composition and design is more important than the velocity or bullet weight. My choice for hunting with 223 would be th 70gr Barnes TSX.
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See post #4.

WRT .223, the bullet composition and design is more important than the velocity or bullet weight. My choice for hunting with 223 would be th 70gr Barnes TSX.
ah cool...

man that thing has to be fun suppressed.
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ARin,

Please change your avitar, its freaking me out that Hillary actually looks sexy.

Oh, and sweet stick!
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I got the 240's running subsonic now...
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I killed the biggest bear and blacktail of my life with a 300 Fireball using 165 gr Ballistic Tips out of a 10" barreled CZ527 with an AAC Cyclone.

The dear was at 20 yds, through both shoulders, the bear was at about 200 yds, through the lungs and spine. Both 1 shot kills.
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Awesome Zak,

I just ordered 2 of the Noveske 300/221 Fireball barrels last week for two projects, Im glad Im not the only one who finds this caliber fantastic!
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Do you need to modify your mags at all to fit 220-240 loads in them?

Also, did you get that barrel recently?
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