Slip2000 cleaning products?

[LawDog]

Any one use the Slip2000 725 Cleaner/Degreaser or the Carbon Killer? Is one better than the other or are they the same product with a different label? Do I need 1 or the other or both? I have also heard of people using non chlorinated brake cleaner.

[JLM]

The Carbon Cutter is for very heavily fouled parts. It works magic on AR bolts.

The 725 is a good all around cleaner. Plus its non toxic too.

I like and have used both. With cleaning bolts I have noticed that once I have cleaned once with the Carbon Cutter, and then applied a good quality lube to afterwards, when its get dirty down the road, the 725 is usually enough to take care of it.

[Erick Gelhaus]

Concur with JLM.

[markm]

I've never had any luck with the carbon cutter. I soak and resoak, and finally just lose patience and scrape the damned carbon off.

[Buckaroo]

Originally Posted by demigod

I've never had any luck with the carbon cutter. I soak and resoak, and finally just lose patience and scrape the damned carbon off.

Is that a result of the type of lube you are using? Just seems odd....

[markm]

I don't think so. The bolt tail has all the lube shot off by clean up time.

I've had much better luck getting the bolt wet with CLP after a shoot, and then cleaning the gun the next day after the CLP has had some soak time.

[toddackerman]

Originally Posted by Buckaroo

Is that a result of the type of lube you are using? Just seems odd....

My current bolt has ~7,000 rounds on it. The way I keep the bolt cone totally free of carbon is to use MD XF-7 grease on the entire bolt, and BCG, followed up with machine gunners lube on the entire bolt and BCG. When I'm finished shooting (usually averages around 200 rounds per session) I use a "Green Scotchbrite Pad" on the bolt cone and "Voila"...no more carbon. And I mean Zero!

Granted, the carbon build up on the bolt cone is self limiting (breaks off), but i just am anal about it being spotless.

[johnson601]

The cleaner/degreaser has worked great for me but the carbon killer doesn't seem to work very well (for me).

[SinnFéinM1911]

We use alot of it here. BUT be VERY careful you do not leave your parts in the cutter for a extended period of time.

A freind of mine left on in over night, and in the morning it looked like a chrome plated part!

ps
thier lube is the bomb also!

[Failure2Stop]

I love the lube, but I am not sold on the Carbon Cutter.
I am going to do a quick comparison between the Carbon Cutter and CLP tonight.

[Telperion]

Originally Posted by SinnFéinM1911

We use alot of it here. BUT be VERY careful you do not leave your parts in the cutter for a extended period of time.

A freind of mine left on in over night, and in the morning it looked like a chrome plated part!

What do you mean? Was it corroded afterward?

[Robb Jensen]

It can strip the finish off of some parts. SIG barrels for sure.

[mark5pt56]

A little off topic, an easy cleaning idea for AR bolt tails is a .45 or .44 sized casing. Scraps the carbon right off and quickly.

[RWBlue]

Let me first state that I am not a clean gun freak. I don't clean my guns after a range session, I wait until they really need it.

I love their stuff. I use different products for different things.

[LawDog]

Let me know how the Carbon Cutter CLP test goes.

[militarymoron]

i've also found that the carbon cutter/killer needs the part to be soaked longer than the advertised few minutes, and sometimes more than once.

[m4fun]

Always in search of the Holy Grail of AR/M16 bolt cleaning, and I am anal about cleaning them still from Army BT in the 80s. Since then I found Piston Uppers

Their carbon cutter has worked worked, somewhat...that is to say the carbon comes off easier, but not the ability to wipe off the crud on the tail of the bolt. I like it better for Uzi bolts, etc.

Their CLP is top rate. Really like it for cleaning/lube.

[Failure2Stop]

Did a little comparison last night between Slip Carbon Cutter and CLP.
I had two rifles (one 14.5" carbine, one 16" middie) with roughly comparative fouling (about 300 to 500 rounds). Both carbines were lubricated with Slip 2000.

I took pics but either my crappy camera, crappy photography skills (or both) succeeded in making the photos almost, but not quite completely, useless in conveying any usable information.

I figured that the best comparison would be in removing carbon from the boat-tail. Both bolts had similar amounts of crusted carbon on the tail. I normally don't really worry about the fouling there, but it seemed to be a convenient area to compare the two cleaners.

The carbine bolt was completely submerged in CLP.
The middie bolt was completely submerged in SLIP 2000 Carbon Cutter.

The soak began at 1930. As the parts soaked I cleaned the rest BCG.

At 1950 (20 minutes) I removed both from their cleaners and tried to wipe the tails clean with a rag. Both failed to wipe clean, but a significant amount of carbon was present on the rag from both bolts. The soak continued.

At 2015 I repeated. Same result.
2050- Same result.
2110- Same result.
2155- Same result.
2220- Same result. Discouraged, I dropped both firing pins in their respective cleaners for about 10 min. The Carbon Cutter firing pin wiped clean. The CLP did not. I then dropped the dirty firing pin into the Carbon Cutter. After 5 minutes it wiped clean.
2240- Same result.
2310- Same result. Got bored. Wiped off both bolts, lubed and reassembled.

Observation- The amount of carbon remaining on both bolt-tails appeared to be about the same. However, the brass flakes and smears on the bolt face were completely removed from the Carbon Cutter bolt, but were not removed from the CLP bolt. Both containers had flakes of brass and carbon chunks at the bottom of the container.

I am going to soak both overnight (approx 7 hours) tonight and see how it goes after wiping off the Slip EWL.

[jmart]

Originally Posted by Failure2Stop

Did a little comparison last night between Slip Carbon Cutter and CLP.

Observation- The amount of carbon remaining on both bolt-tails appeared to be about the same. However, the brass flakes and smears on the bolt face were completely removed from the Carbon Cutter bolt, but were not removed from the CLP bolt. Both containers had flakes of brass and carbon chunks at the bottom of the container.

I am going to soak both overnight (approx 7 hours) tonight and see how it goes after wiping off the Slip EWL.

Recommend you not do this with the Carbon Cutter.

[Glorybigs]

Originally Posted by demigod

I've never had any luck with the carbon cutter. I soak and resoak, and finally just lose patience and scrape the damned carbon off.

My experience exactly.