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09-29-06, 13:32
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VFG Recommendations
A friend of mine is looking for a VFG for the Troy rail on his S&W M&P15. I'm happy with my TD VFG, and I'm not really familiar with the other brands on the market.
What other VFGs, besides the TD, are quality products?
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09-29-06, 13:54
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Originally Posted by DrMark
A friend of mine is looking for a VFG for the Troy rail on his S&W M&P15. I'm happy with my TD VFG, and I'm not really familiar with the other brands on the market.
What other VFGs, besides the TD, are quality products?
Thanks.
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I consider the TD to be the best. I also like the Falcon Industries VG's as well.
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09-29-06, 13:58
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TangoDown .. Hands - Down!
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09-29-06, 14:20
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Originally Posted by SinnFéinM1911
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Not if you don't like fat grips, and storage isn't a requirement.
I have the KAC, or the Promag KAC clone on all of my rifles.
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09-29-06, 14:37
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I really dont want to get into a pissing match, but for Quality, Durability, and Straight up some fo the best customer service in the Industry, TangoDown is the Best on the Market.
There are reasons why .Mil Units select it, and Many many other agencies / contractors use them.
Fat - That fit the Majority the Adults perfectly.
Storage - Requirment or not it is a option I'd like to have if the situation presents itself.
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Former Troy Industries Inc Director of Operations 2003-2006
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09-29-06, 15:02
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Originally Posted by SinnFéinM1911
I really dont want to get into a pissing match
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WTF, I didn't make fun of your girlfriend or the size of your penis, I just stated that it's just your opinion that the TD is the best, not a fact.
Other people (Like me) have a different opinion based on what we want and need. I know I'm not alone in not liking the TD, I didn't say it was junk, just that it's not what I and many other like and use.
See, Grant also likes the Falcon Industries VFG's, I fully trust Grant's opinion on stuff, and most of the Cav Arms guys use them, yet again, I just don't like them. I have found the perfect grip for me, and it's the KAC style VFG.
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09-29-06, 17:49
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CQD is also a fine grip. I have one on my carbine, and I love it. Some say that heat and/or cold may be an issue but I have not found this to be so.
Solid lock-up due to 3 cross bolts. Nice machined from 1 piece of aluminum. GOOD unit.
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09-29-06, 18:43
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I've found myself going back to the KAC grip.
I've tried most out there -- I just found with a pressure switch taped to it and some grip tape on it the KAC the best fit for gloved hands. I did some comparative testing with some guys in my old unit and found the majority agreed. That said it due to its design - is not the most robust.
The TD while solid I find too "fat" and angled incorrectly as I feel the "fatter" zone should have been in the direction of fire - not across it. I wish Jeff had a skinnier option - as the barrel of broken KAC grips is annoying at most units
I have no intention on putting anything in my vert grip to further shift the weight out front so the storage issue fo rme is moot.
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09-29-06, 19:35
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Originally Posted by KevinB
I have no intention on putting anything in my vert grip to further shift the weight out front so the storage issue fo rme is moot.
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paperwork that has been rolled up to fit in there doesn't add any noticable weight...
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09-29-06, 20:06
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Good input, guys. Much appreciated.
I forwarded a link to my friend so he can check it out as well.
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09-29-06, 20:37
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Originally Posted by Hoplophile
paperwork that has been rolled up to fit in there doesn't add any noticable weight... 
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like doctors notes in case someone from work busts u at the range while you're on sick leave
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09-29-06, 20:44
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One more for the Dieter CQD vertical grip. Fits my hand perfectly and is the most stable one I have found so far.
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09-29-06, 21:33
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VFG's are a lot like underwear.... it's a personnel choice...
Me... I'm old school... I like the KAC grip. I like them thinner and I have no need for storage. Plus it;s easy on/off.
Try a bunch. pick the one you like
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09-29-06, 21:59
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I have had good luck with the KAC and the GG&G. The GG&G is a little fatter and seems a little more solid than the KAC. Like it was said just try a bunch and you will find the one that works best for you. You can always sell the ones you don't like.
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09-30-06, 18:53
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I use, and have let others use my GG&G, as well as the TD. The TD seems to be more well liked by those who have large enough hands. The GG&G is liked by most, but it doesn't seem to have the raw appeal that the TD wears.
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09-30-06, 20:25
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I've used both the KAC and TD models. Even with my tiny paws, my preference goes to the TD product.
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10-01-06, 07:39
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I prefer the KISS KAS VFG. I had a TD a few years ago and it just did'nt feel right. (to me anyway)
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10-01-06, 09:30
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There's one that I tried at the NRA Show that I liked. It was rubberized like an Ergo grip, and was textured with a diamond pattern. Felt nice and solid and "grippy." Does anyone know the one I mean and who sells them?
John
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10-01-06, 10:00
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Grendelizer,
SOG Armory sells the VFG you are describing I believe.
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10-01-06, 11:45
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Originally Posted by Grendelizer
There's one that I tried at the NRA Show that I liked. It was rubberized like an Ergo grip, and was textured with a diamond pattern. Felt nice and solid and "grippy." Does anyone know the one I mean and who sells them?
John
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Like this one?
http://www.rockriverarms.com/images/forgrp.
I like these, cheap, rock solid mount, rubber grip surface is nice, and don't get hot after a day of blasting on a shorty M16.
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