LocTite on MagPul MIAD grip bolt

jlficken · #1 07-22-08, 15:44

I got my grip today and went to put the bolt in and all I can say is WOW that bolt went in hard. I thought I was cross threading it I had to put so much force on the thing. I took it out (which went much smoother) after I finally got it in and it didn't harm the threads from the look of it but that blue LocTite they have on there is a bit much. The standard A2 grip that came with the LPK was much easier to put on. I would have rather just added some blue of my own. Has anyone else noticed that or am I the only one?

Dedpoet · #2 07-22-08, 15:51

I found the same thing when I installed mine a couple of weeks ago.

I also cut the holy hell out of my thumb removing the front grip panel. One of those cuts where you see how deep it is for a few seconds before the blood figures out what has happened. While bleeding all over my desk I noticed the note on step 4 of the installation instructions - Be careful as the front edges can be sharp. Yikes.

markm · #3 07-22-08, 15:56

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Originally Posted by Dedpoet

I found the same thing when I installed mine a couple of weeks ago.

I also cut the holy hell out of my thumb removing the front grip panel. One of those cuts where you see how deep it is for a few seconds before the blood figures out what has happened. While bleeding all over my desk I noticed the note on step 4 of the installation instructions - Be careful as the front edges can be sharp. Yikes.

I poked myself with that too. No blood though because I read the warning in the instructions.

jlficken · #4 07-22-08, 15:57

I'm glad I'm not the only one then. Stripping/cross-threading the grip bolt in the lower is one of those unfixable things I would think. It also took me a long time to get it started as for some reason the bolt didn't want to grab the threads.

The grip is alright but I still like the feel of the A2 better as I have big hands and this one feels narrow(best way I can put it) as it doesn't have as much of a palm swell.

I have given myself one of those cuts with an exacto knife before. The kind where you can feel it hit bone. Not fun got 13 stiches for that one.

spamsammich · #5 07-22-08, 16:17

That's strange, I have small hands and find the a2 grip unacceptably skinny. The MIADs feel much more substantial and place the pad of my finger closer to the ideal position on my trigger. A2 grips make it feel like I can pull the trigger with my second knuckle.

jlficken · #6 07-22-08, 16:28

It may be I am just not used to it yet but the trigger reach does feel longer which I like but it just feels narrower to me. I haven't shot with it yet but plan on doing so tonight. Maybe my first impressions are wrong I'm not sure. I was really late getting back to work so didn't check it out a whole lot. I was just happy it didn't appear that I cross-threaded the thing yet. Maybe next time

I hate aluminum on steel thread.

Paulinski · #7 07-22-08, 16:32

The way I install MAID grips is I remove the dried red stuff from the screw thread (red loctite I ASSume) then I use the original washer and a bit of blue loctite on the thread.

jlficken · #8 07-22-08, 16:38

Your's came with red? That is kind of scary as even my experience w/ blue on a buffer tube was we'll say not good. Mine has blue on the bolt that it came with and they said not to use the lock washer from the standard A2 grip. I should have just removed it and used my liquid Permatex 242 but didn't..oh well next time maybe if I ever take it off which I don't plan on doing any time soon as it sucked enough getting it on the first and second times.

spamsammich · #9 07-22-08, 16:43

That dried "red" loctite is nowhere near as nasty as the stuff in liquid form.

RD62 · #10 07-22-08, 17:21

Yep. Just put another MIAD on a lower the other day and was worried I was cross-threading it becuase it was so tuff. Worked out fine though, and I didn't cut myself!

-RD62

jlficken · #11 07-22-08, 17:30

I didn't figure I would get this many responses for a stupid question. Thanks for all the confirmation guys.

28_days · #12 07-22-08, 17:53

Without having the parts in front of me...so the general consensus is to wipe off the bolt MagPul sends with, apply blue Loctite, and screw it in like a normal A2 grip?

Should I be using any of the "old" parts?

jlficken · #13 07-22-08, 18:01

Yes to the first question. That is what I will be doing if I do it again.

No to the second. The instructions say not to use the "old" bolt or washer just the "new" bolt that is supplied.

28_days · #14 07-22-08, 18:57

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Originally Posted by jlficken

Yes to the first question. That is what I will be doing if I do it again.

No to the second. The instructions say not to use the "old" bolt or washer just the "new" bolt that is supplied.

Excellent, thanks!

WS6 · #15 07-22-08, 21:13

Mine came with red-orange. There is no way this is real lock-tite as real red lock-tite dries to a hard and inflexible media. I belive this is something Magpul uses exclusively (or that I have never seen before) and is not nearly as bad as "real" lock-tite.

Ridge_Runner_5 · #16 07-22-08, 23:36

I used the screw that came from the LPK :P

SRG · #17 07-23-08, 00:35

For what it's worth, I don't know what the sealant is on the MIAD bolt threads but I assume it is pretty much the same thing as the stuff put on Ruger screws as well as some other manufacturers. Loc-Tite is an anaerobic cement, meaning it dries in the ABSENCE of air. Notice how you can put a dab on a surface exposed to air and it doesn't seem to dry. That's why it doesn't dry in the bottle it comes in. There is air space inside the bottle.

I reference to installing MIAD grip screws, or any screws, in the future, how about doing a "dry" run by screwing in the bolt by itself first and "seating" the thread.

Just my $.04 worth. Inflation, you see.