rifle selection

[dsmguy7]

I may be too late, with the election results and all, but being a police officer with a newborn son; I don't have much money. I was planning on buying at least one more rifle before Jan. I already have a Noveske N4 basic. I want to buy another ar to pass down to my son one day. I fear that when he is grown we won't be able to purchase them any more. If I can only afford to buy one before Jan., would it be better to buy another 5.56 and extra parts so that my parts will swap and all of my rifle ammo will be the same? Or would it be better to buy a .308 ar or similar rifle for more power and a better chance at being able to utilize any ammo stash you come across? I'm sad that I'm just now getting back into guns. I have the aforementioned N4 with Vicker's sling, Omega rail, X300, and Tango Down foregrip. I am about to purchase an Aimpoint Comp M4S and a safe. I have app. 800 rounds of ammo, 10 pmags, and a gun case. I am about to buy a Glock G19. So, funds limited....what to do? I have searched ammo and also the tactical forums. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[Dave L.]

Eventually people will have to pay their credit card bill and the buying will slow down.
Relax, you will have plenty of time time to find another AR. Maybe just buy a lower or 2 and build them slowly, a lower is between 120-160.
Prices may stay 10-20% higher though; who knows.

[sgtmajor]

Originally Posted by Dave L.

Eventually people will have to pay their credit card bill and the buying will slow down.
Relax, you will have plenty of time time to find another AR. Maybe just buy a lower or 2 and build them slowly, a lower is between 120-160.
Prices may stay 10-20% higher though; who knows.

Im with Dave on this one. The crazy spending will soon end and I doubt that the first act as president will be to bad guns there’s to many other issues for that. Im not saying don’t buy one im just saying I think things are a little blown out of proportion right now.

[NickB]

If you're buying in preparation of a ban, 10 $100 lowers will be far more valuable than a single $1000 rifle. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. I, too, have purchased a number of stripped lowers "just in case". Come January 20, however, I'm going to be hitting the Hill like a madman to put a stop to as much legislation as I possibly can.

[sgtmajor]

Originally Posted by NickB

If you're buying in preparation of a ban, 10 $100 lowers will be far more valuable than a single $1000 rifle. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. I, too, have purchased a number of stripped lowers "just in case". Come January 20, however, I'm going to be hitting the Hill like a madman to put a stop to as much legislation as I possibly can.

i think all will pan out......that said i did pick up a few "stripped" lowers myself before my dealer ran out.

[ar-junkie]

Originally Posted by NickB

If you're buying in preparation of a ban, 10 $100 lowers will be far more valuable than a single $1000 rifle. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. I, too, have purchased a number of stripped lowers "just in case". Come January 20, however, I'm going to be hitting the Hill like a madman to put a stop to as much legislation as I possibly can.

Why is it people are more concerned with lowers than uppers or complete rifles before a ban? Do lowers break more or something? I'm noob to this so if someone would please inform me... Are uppers not banned? Do they normally ban all replacement parts like extractors or a simple mil-spec pin that breaks. Reason I ask is you said you have purchased a number of stripped lowers, wouldn't you need the pieces before ban or is that something you could get afterwords?

[NoBody]

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[NickB]

Originally Posted by ar-junkie

Why is it people are more concerned with lowers than uppers or complete rifles before a ban? Do lowers break more or something? I'm noob to this so if someone would please inform me... Are uppers not banned? Do they normally ban all replacement parts like extractors or a simple mil-spec pin that breaks. Reason I ask is you said you have purchased a number of stripped lowers, wouldn't you need the pieces before ban or is that something you could get afterwords?

The lower is the "registered firearm", or serialized part. The date of manufacture is identified by the serial number engraved on the lower receiver. If your "gun" (read: lower receiver on an AR) was manufactured prior to the date of the ban, you can put whatever you want on it, even during the ban. Flash hiders, collapsible stocks, threaded barrels, etc.

Of course this is all assuming it is a Clinton-style AWB next time, which may or may not be the case.

[NickB]

Originally Posted by NoBody

I wonder if that's why Noveske ran out of lowers to build their rifles on.

I'm partially to blame for that. Although I am taking care of John as much as I possibly can, so hopefully I can make up for it.

[NoBody]

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[NickB]

Originally Posted by NoBody

Hey, Nick, I thought the old AWB made it illegal to assemble the lower into a complete rifle unless it was in that configuration prior to the ban. Granted, good luck proving that one, but...

The ban itself did not, but an ATF ruling did. At least that is my understanding. I have no doubt that every "stripped" lower that was purchased by our forum friends will be fully and completely assembled as a rifle before the ban is enacted. Not a doubt in my mind...

[NoBody]

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[whaledriver]

To the original question. I think it all comes down to what you want to do with it. Is it a paper puncher, self defense, investment? With that being said you mentioned the 308 caliber. I will say one this, it is a sweet shooter but it is heavy. I am looking at doing a 6.8 so I can deer hunt with it and still not have the weight issues.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

I'm in the same boat as you. I was looking to get into AR10s, maybe an M14, but I decided to stay with the .223 platform. I figured if I need that much range, I'll just use a bolt gun.

The issue with stripped lowers is that the old ban IIRC was that all AWB were illegal, except if you could prove that they were "manufactured" before the ban. ATF took that to mean as complete, and the stickler was that you had to prove that you finished it before the deadline. Who knows what the new ban, if there is a ban, will be. It may be the state laws that get us first. I'm not going hog wild on lowers because Ithink they are going to either make it illegal to transfer AW, or make it a Class III type thing.

What I'm doing is buying enough ammo to be comfortable (1-2000rnds) and mags. For the AR, I'm buying mainly Stainless Steel Mags, and a few Pmags. For ammo, metal prices are going down, and after demand ramps down there should be lower prices. It is disheartening to google ammo price, see incredible prices, and realize it is a post from 2003 ;(

[dsmguy7]

Thank you for all of your responses. All my rifles are for shtf / survival which would include hunting. I thought of the .308 for more range and power. That is a good idea about buying lowers, but I'm afraid that any new ban would close loopholes of the first. I believe that they have learned their lesson from the 1st and if they get a super majority in congress; who knows? I do hope the craziness stops and prices start going back to normal. No one has answered about the tactics of it though. Is it better to have different calibers or just one?

[carbinero]

I'm in a similar plan, such that I even just bought a G19!

IMHO, it's good to have two ARs, then a .308 bolty.

I think you're a little light on the ammo, but no rush on the Aimpoint.

[RogerinTPA]

More mags, more ammo, and a few LMT lowers would be my priority.

[dsmguy7]

Awesome responses! Thanks, guys; keep 'em coming.