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AR Match Triggers?

Which match trigger is the most reliable? Which gives the best trigger feel? Is the KAC still the industry best?
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I have been hearing good things about Geissele triggers haven't tried one myself but everyone I know that has one loves them.
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The US Army Marksmanship Unit has begun technical inspections of the 3rd Infantry Division's 275 M16A4 Designated Marksman Rifles now that they have returned from Iraq and have enjoyed their 30-day leave.

The results will surprise the Army -- on the GOOD side.

Our inspections are again showing that the Knight trigger has enough durability issues (even though it is a very low density National Stock Number item) that the Geissele trigger may indeed be the way forward in the evolution of the Army's M16A4 DM Rifle.

Not to go into too many details until we get a look at the other 3/4s of the rifles, but the red Lock-tite we used on the screws held in all instances. On first report for this batch of rifles, either the Knight trigger's metallurgy or surface hardening is its weak area.
The Geissele is leaps and bounds a better trigger than the KAC. If you find someone who has owned both, they will probably agree.
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Where does one procure one of these Geissele triggers?
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Where does one procure one of these Geissele triggers?

I have them in stock. I would agree with Steve that the Geissele is the best trigger available. Next in line is the KAC IMHO.


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I have them in stock. I would agree with Steve that the Geissele is the best trigger available. Next in line is the KAC IMHO.


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So they're relatively easy to get? Not something that is routinely backordered? What's the MAP?
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So they're relatively easy to get? Not something that is routinely backordered? What's the MAP?
They were backordered until just recently. Everybody sells them for about $280, which I think is a little less than the KAC.

Geissele is coming out with a non adjustable two stage later this year (set at 2.5/1.5 pounds), which will apparently retail for $150 or so.
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Geissele is coming out with a non adjustable two stage later this year (set at 2.5/1.5 pounds), which will apparently retail for $150 or so.
That sounds a little light for my tastes.
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That's a two stage trigger for a combined weight of 4 lbs. Mr G. posted that they will be adjustable by an armoroer during installation, but they wouldn't be user adjustable. Not sure how that would work, but that's what he said. I suppose if you wanted to bump it up to 5 - 6 lbs that could be accomplished.
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The Geissele is leaps and bounds a better trigger than the KAC. If you find someone who has owned both, they will probably agree.
I own both (and a few others) and the Geissele is the best IMHO. I'm looking forward to their large pin version for Colts.
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What kind of trigger pull does the current Geissele have?
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What kind of trigger pull does the current Geissele have?
Here is their web site so you can get the different weights on their triggers.

http://www.geissele.com/


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I own both (and a few others) and the Geissele is the best IMHO. I'm looking forward to their large pin version for Colts.

The large pin is just as good - I used mine this weekend for the first time and shot a personal best with my AR @1K yds!
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He is correct though!
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I have them in stock. I would agree with Steve that the Geissele is the best trigger available. Next in line is the KAC IMHO.


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I ordered 2 from G&R in march, to use for our video, and I will tell you, they are slick, I dont have time to tune a trigger and it was the best option I read about...took a chance on it, and it was a great buy!
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I have a full-auto CMC trigger if anyone is interested.
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I have a FA Colt LPK and I want to improve the trigger pull. What's a good aftermarket match trigger? I'm assuming I will only change the trigger and spring and keep the FA hammer/disconnector?
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Not sure about the G - but KAC's replaces the trigger, disconnector and hammer (plus springs)
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I ordered 2 from G&R in march, to use for our video, and I will tell you, they are slick, I dont have time to tune a trigger and it was the best option I read about...took a chance on it, and it was a great buy!
I believe that was my conclusion.
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Not sure about the G - but KAC's replaces the trigger, disconnector and hammer (plus springs)
I was thinking in the line of something more affordable yet provide a better triggerpull than the stock and still retain FA capability.
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