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12-07-08, 15:57
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Response from B.O.
After the election I wrote an email to the new Obama administration voicing my support for the 2a and to discreetly let them know that I vote on the issue
This is the expected non-response I got today. Funny that they don't even mention the 2a, but they know I'm paying attention.
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Dear John,
Thank you for contacting us with questions regarding the policy agenda of President-elect Barack Obama and Vice President-elect Joe Biden. They have listened to the hopes, concerns and ideas of people across our country and developed innovative approaches to challenge the status quo in Washington and bring about the change America needs.
The incoming Obama-Biden administration has a comprehensive and detailed policy agenda. Among many important domestic and foreign policy objectives, the priorities of the new Administration include: reviving the economy; provide affordable, accessible health care to all; strengthening our public education and social security systems; defining a clear path to energy independence and tackling climate change; ending the war in Iraq responsibly and finishing our mission in Afghanistan; and working with our allies to prevent Iran from developing a nuclear weapon.
To learn details about the Obama-Biden policy agenda and share your ideas, please click here:
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We appreciate the outpouring of interest in the new administration and hope you will stay involved.
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12-07-08, 15:59
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I just got the same thing a few minutes ago.
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12-07-08, 16:12
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It's a canned form letter.
I'll bet they didn't even open or read your letter.
They took the return address from the outside and
then threw it in the trash.
You're on their mailing list now and the next letter
will beg for money.
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12-07-08, 16:21
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You guys must have ruined it for the rest of us. I haven't got my response yet.
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12-07-08, 16:32
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Originally Posted by JBnTX
It's a canned form letter.
I'll bet they didn't even open or read your letter.
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It was an email and if they didn't read it, how did they know my name?
Moreover why respond at all?
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You're on their mailing list now and the next letter
will beg for money.
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Uhm no, the Office of the President can't solicit political contributions, it's against the law.
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12-07-08, 16:56
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At least it says "Blah Blah Transition Project" and not "Office of the President Elect"
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12-07-08, 17:29
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Originally Posted by Gutshot John
Uhm no, the Office of the President can't solicit political contributions, it's against the law.
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There is no "Office of the President Elect" in the United States Code.
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12-07-08, 17:33
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There is no "Office of the President Elect" in the United States Code. 
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Didn't say "office of the President Elect". I said Office of the President.
By the time BO needs to raise money for his party he will be President. As a citizen he can help raise money, but he can't use official lists, phone lines, stationary or other trappings of the office of the President. He will have to use party lists and administrative equipment.
Just a little difference.
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12-07-08, 17:48
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my response from them was a touch dif ?
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Thank you for your interest in the incoming administration and the Obama-Biden Transition project. On November 4th, millions of Americans challenged the status quo by standing for change. The change that Americans called for was not just new policies – but a new type of politics in Washington. The Obama-Biden Transition Project is working to build the staff and the policy agenda of the new administration to make the promise of change into a reality.
We value your message and welcome your thoughts, stories and questions as President-elect Obama and Vice President-elect Biden prepare to take office. We hope you’ll continue to be active and we have set up many places on the website where you can give us your input.
To learn more about the Obama-Biden policy agenda and share your ideas, please click here:
http://www.change.gov/agenda/
To share your American story, please click here: http://www.change.gov/page/content/americanmoment
For updates from Obama-Biden Transition Project, including video of President-elect Obama’s weekly address, please click here:
http://www.change.gov/newsroom/blog/
For the latest news about the President-elect’s and Vice-President elect’s preparations to take office, please click here:
http://www.change.gov/newsroom/
We appreciate hearing from you and hope you will continue to participate. Although we may not be able to address each message individually, your input and the input of millions of other Americans will continue to guide President-elect Obama.
Again, thank you for your message.
Sincerely,
The Obama-Biden Transition Project
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if you go to the american story ? it ends up here
http://change.gov/page/s/yourstory
I guess we could once again say my story is to keep my rights not take them away !
I bet the lefties they have reading these will just delete any they dont like anyway !!!
I really really do believe this as his censorship has been shown to be this way
so sadly this avenue with him direct is going in the garbage
we need other avenues that he does not control
just my thoughts
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12-07-08, 17:51
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Hey, all the guy promised was Hope and Change. What did everyone expect?
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12-07-08, 18:01
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I got one of those today also, it differs a little from yours. The E-mail subject said-
"Thank you for your message to the transition team re: a love of firearms"
...And said nothing at all about the 2nd, guns, gun rights or anything of that nature.
I dont think its just a random response, it could be though, Ive been wrong before.
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12-08-08, 05:14
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Good on you for letting his office know where they stand on 2a with many of us gutshot. Typical canned letter full of political double talk and BS. Despite the fact that his voting record is clearly AGAINST 2a more of us should be chipping in like this and reminding these hypocrites that we won't take ANYONE meddling with these rights.
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12-08-08, 12:41
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now I get a ton of his emails showing/asking for help
its kinda good to see what others get from the Messiah !!!!!!
[where is that puke icon]
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12-08-08, 12:49
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Originally Posted by Honu
now I get a ton of his emails showing/asking for help
its kinda good to see what others get from the Messiah !!!!!!
[where is that puke icon]
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Have you tried the junk mail feature?
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12-08-08, 12:54
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Of course it's an auto responder. It just grabs the From and Subject headers. Most party sites have them so that people don't get pissed that they're being ignored.
I've wondered for a while if members of congress have the interns actually read or count for/against emails on certain issues.
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12-08-08, 13:11
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Originally Posted by Gutshot John
It was an email and if they didn't read it, how did they know my name?
Moreover why respond at all?
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John, with all due respect, you are far too intelligent to have asked these questions.
Imagine the volume of emails they get, and those that open them. They copy your first name to a generic email and off it goes.
No one there gives a shit.
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12-08-08, 13:19
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Originally Posted by Safetyhit
John, with all due respect, you are far too intelligent to have asked these questions.
Imagine the volume of emails they get, and those that open them. They copy your first name to a generic email and off it goes.
No one there gives a shit.
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Whatever else he is, he is a politician. His prime interest is self-interest and getting re-elected is his top priority.
No one there gives a shit about the second amendment. They do care about getting re-elected and that was the point.
He may or may not ignore the email, but you bet your ass that if he got a few million similar emails that he's paying attention.
If they didn't give a shit, why acknowledge at all? They're not stupid.
With all due respect, you're far too intelligent to think he's anything more than a politician.
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12-08-08, 13:37
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Originally Posted by Gutshot John
With all due respect, you're far too intelligent to think he's anything more than a politician.
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I know he is a politician, good buddy. But, what could possibly be the best case scenario for your literally one-in-a-muliti-million email? Maybe generally itemized for content and message, and then logged?
I just don't see this happening, especially by his liberal staffers, but who knows. And there is no doubt whatsoever that the man himself will never be aware of it.
Actually, I think it is more offensive and much less practical to send such a generic response back. Only a fool would be content with such an inapplicable answer. It didn't do much for you, did it? I think no answer would actually be better than the mindless crap they send.
It's a bit insulting, don't you think?
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12-08-08, 14:10
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Originally Posted by Safetyhit
I know he is a politician, good buddy. But, what could possibly be the best case scenario for your literally one-in-a-muliti-million email? Maybe generally itemized for content and message, and then logged?
I just don't see this happening, especially by his liberal staffers, but who knows. And there is no doubt whatsoever that the man himself will never be aware of it.
Actually, I think it is more offensive and much less practical to send such a generic response back. Only a fool would be content with such an inapplicable answer. It didn't do much for you, did it? I think no answer would actually be better than the mindless crap they send.
It's a bit insulting, don't you think?
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No, this is democracy. It's untidy, disorganized and sometimes unpleasant, but it's the best system in the world. How can that be insulting? Moreover I fail to see any harm in expressing myself, I'm amazed that you haven't.
If you don't see a few million emails doing any good, than I'd suggest you've already given up. I fail to see any wisdom in that perspective, quite the contrary it strikes me as foolish and a sure-fire way to lose your gun rights. If you're not even willing to write a simple email, than you're asking for your gun rights to be taken away. Genuinely that is far more insulting than some canned letter that I knew in advance was going to be the reply, but that wasn't the point. I wasn't expecting him to say, "Yep I promise no AWB".
Moreover you don't really understand how the system works. Those emails are almost certainly counted, there are whole legions of people employed in DC to do EXACTLY that. If they keep getting more emails from us, than from antis, than you can be sure they won't touch it. That's politics.
He's a politician and the first rule of success in politics is to get re-elected. If you don't see the truth of that I've little interest in convincing you otherwise as not being worth my time.
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12-08-08, 14:33
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Originally Posted by Gutshot John
He's a politician and the first rule of success in politics is to get re-elected. If you don't see the truth of that I've little interest in convincing you otherwise as not being worth my time.
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How did I know it would come to this?
OK, you waste your time e-mailing Obama and his ilk, I will direct my correspondence to more realistic ears. Like those of Congressmen and Senators that actually respond with a real answer directed at the issue addressed. I have a collection of actual paper response letters sent to me, with text applicable to my issue, from many of these folks. Even the Dems. That is far better than the generic junk that has apparently appeased you.
An email to Obama is a waste of time. The fact that they responded the way they did proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt. The response has nothing to do with what you stated, and that is just lazy and insulting any way you look at it. Then they send you update emails as though you were a supporter. A joke.
You won't agree because you absolutely, positively must be right 100% of the time. Anyone who disagrees with you is bound to be berated, and it's a tired theme here.
This thread makes you look foolish. Just the title is goofy. You should bow out of it.
With all due respect.
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