Components of a decent trauma kit?

[Mikey]

Anyone care to list what would be prudent to carry in a small to medium sized personal trauma kit?

Looking to get this squared away.

[techo]

I have the Adventure Medical Trauma kit. It's a good, basic low cost kit.
http://www.basegear.com/amk-field-trauma.html

[021411]

Mikey, is this a carry around with you all the time kit? If it's a go-bag type kit I would skip the pain relievers and stick with the meat and potatoes. Bandages, trauma shears, gauze, etc..

[rob_s]

I am NOT a medical professional of any kind....

Looking at the military kits is a good start.

the below in chart form

Below information taken from here

US ARMY IMPROVED FIRST AID KIT CONTENTS:

NSN............................Nomenclature
6515-01-521-7976.......Tourniquet, Combat Application
6510-01-492-2275.......Bandage Kit, Elastic
6510-01-503-2117 / 6510-00-058-3047 Bandage Gauze 4-1/2" 100/Pkg
6510-00-926-8883.......Adhesive Tape Surg 2" 6's Roll
6515-01-180-0467.......Airway, Nasopharyngeal, 28fr, 12s
6515-01-519-9161.......Glove, Patient Exam 100/Pkg (4ea)
6545-01-531-3647.......Pouch, IFAK
6545-01-531-3147.......Insert, IFAK (has folding panels, with cord attached)




USMC INDIVIDUAL FIRST AID KIT CONTENTS:

IFAK A1 Component Individual First Aid Kit - NSN 6545-01-539-2740 (includes the following items):
6510-01-499-9285.......3.5 oz. Quikclot Packet (1ea)
6515-01-542-7696TK4 Tourni-Kwik Self-Application Tourniquet 40" (2ea)
6510-01-540-6484......."H" Compression Bandage w/8" x 10" Ab Pad (2ea)
6510-01-503-2117.......Primed Compressed Gauze 4.5" x 4.1 yards (2ea)
8105-09-000-2725.......Pouch NSN (1ea)

IFAK A1 Minor First Aid Kit Component NSN 6545-09-000-2727 (includes the following items):
6510-01-514-4518.......Adhesive Bandage 2" x 4 1/2" (5ea)
6510-00-913-7909.......Adhesive Bandages, 3/4" x 3" (10ea)
6510-00-201-1755.......Triangular Bandages, 40"x40"x56" Non-sterile (2ea)
6510-01-549-0927.......Combat Reinforcement Tap 2" x 100" (1ea)
6510-01-243-5894.......Burn Dressing 4" x 16", Water-Jel (1ea)
N/A...............................Bacitracin Antibiotic Oinment 0.9 gram (8ea)
6505-00-914-3593.......Povidone-Iodine Topical Solution USP 10% 1/2 floz. (1ea)
6850-00-985-7166.......Water Purification Tablets 10 Pack, Katadyn Micropur, Sodium Chlorite (1ea)

[SeriousStudent]

The Adventure Medical Kits are a good way to start. It is nice to have a little bit of snivel gear - aspirin, sinus meds, bandaids.

I always end up building my own, so it has what I want. It's sort of like Rob's advice on AR's: Buy your first one, then build what you want next.

And I'll mirror his other question: How much do you want to spend, and what do you want to do with it?

It is also a good idea to get a bit of instruction before using a tourniquet or an NP airway.

And think about how far away from help you are. Are you going two weeks into the Alaskan bush, or shooting at a range that is just 10 minutes from a Level-1 trauma center? The range I usually shoot at is about an hour from a good trauma center. My medical kit is corresponding more complex.

And the best medical device is the one between your ears. You can improvise a LOT if you know what you are doing, and have just some basics. But if was your daughter that got shot, you'd want some suitable gear, right?

[CharlieMike]

INADB (I'm not a doctor but...),

+1 on adventure medical.

I like Rob's kit as well. I wonder if this is only for yourself or do you expect to use this on others? If so, at least one of some kind of chest seal (Asherman, Hyfin, or Bolin type) might be good to add.

[rob_s]

Originally Posted by SeriousStudent

And think about how far away from help you are. Are you going two weeks into the Alaskan bush, or shooting at a range that is just 10 minutes from a Level-1 trauma center?

I think this is very important and can't be over stated.

[Mikey]

Originally Posted by 021411

Mikey, is this a carry around with you all the time kit? If it's a go-bag type kit I would skip the pain relievers and stick with the meat and potatoes. Bandages, trauma shears, gauze, etc..

This would be a kit for SHTF situation on my vest or go-bag. I carry a pretty decent first aid kit(bandaids, asprin, a few rolls of gauze and tape, shears, etc.) in each of my vehicles for minor stuff. I'm really looking for something I would be able to use on myself to patch up a GSW until I can get proper medical attention.

-Mike

[SeriousStudent]

Originally Posted by Mikey

This would be a kit for SHTF situation on my vest or go-bag. I carry a pretty decent first aid kit(bandaids, asprin, a few rolls of gauze and tape, shears, etc.) in each of my vehicles for minor stuff. I'm really looking for something I would be able to use on myself to patch up a GSW until I can get proper medical attention.

-Mike

Then Rob's suggested kit sounds like a very good one.

And make sure there are at least one, preferably two working cell phones there with you.

If you get a chance, you might think of something like the military "nine-line card" for calling in the medical emergency. You want to be able to tell them who, what, where, how many, etc.

If you are in a more remote location, a set of GPS coordinates of your range could literally be a lifesaver. A medevac bird can fly directly to you, and save a lot of time.

Good luck.

[SeriousStudent]

Oh, and I would be sorely tempted to add shears and a light to that IFAK.

And a blue filter on a white light is often handy for spotting blood in low-light conditions.

[kihnspiracy]

Great info. I think the USMC kit will fill my needs.

[bluepythons]

I agree on the scissors. Around here (MN) we have Fleet Farm (farm vet supply) stores that have all sorts of cool stuff. One of their best buys is trauma sheers for $.99. They call them "super scissors"or something like that but they are all stainless and work better then the ones that came with my kit. At that price I keep one in just about every bag I have (range bag, duty bag, computer bag, etc etc.)

I would also add a small plastic or wooden dowel and a sharpie marker. As a last resort you use the dowel as a windlass with your roll gauze. You roll on a couple of layers where you want to make your tourniquet or very direct pressure, add the the dowel, and roll some more. Than start to twist the towel to tighten it up. Again that is usually a very last resort and these days with quick clot products is needed less. This technique was taught to me in my EMT class as a rural SHTF type situation. The sharpie can be used to write treatments, meds given, or if a tourniquet is used write a "T" on the skin where you did. The sharpie can also be used for triage purposes. I also keep some para cord in every go kit as well, enough uses.

Before I buy anything fancy though, training is key. Just like many of us recommend to new AR users. So many opportunities through community ed are out there to get a first responder or EMT certification, I recommend it to everyone. Another applicable rule from firearms that also applies is the gear drives the mission. Like others have posted, you need to prepare for your situation. I live in rural MN so cell phones dont always work. I try to always then take my work radio or ham radio and GPS with me when traveling, training, or hunting somewhere without cell coverage. Keep in mind if you are traveling remote, or it becomes remote and you or someone is injured it takes it to a new level. Things to think about include water, shelter, food, etc until help can arrive.

All in all, when it comes to first aid trauma etc, the basic rule is air goes in and out and blood goes round and round. if you can keep the body doing that all is good!

Great thread, glad to see the new section.

ETA I also carry some tagaderm patches. They are the clear plastic patch that is normally used to secure IV's. They make great occlusive (sucking chest wound) dressings and are cheap and easy to find.

[Iraq Ninja]

EMT scissors are old school now. They wear out while cutting clothing off of people. More people are starting to use benchmade 7 hook seat belt cutters. This is what the emergency room at the Baghdad CSH has been using for a while now. It is compact and great for seat belts too. Keep the scissors as a backup...

http://www.outdoorknifeandtool.com/7....app2-delorean

[Mikey]

Thanks for the advice!

-Mike

[SeriousStudent]

Originally Posted by Iraq Ninja

EMT scissors are old school now. They wear out while cutting clothing off of people. More people are starting to use benchmade 7 hook seat belt cutters. This is what the emergency room at the Baghdad CSH has been using for a while now. It is compact and great for seat belts too. Keep the scissors as a backup...

Indeed, very good point, sir. Aren't most units issuing a pair of shears to each grunt, and the medics using the tools you mentioned? That way the shears are bascially considered a disposable item?

I have one of these rigged to the outside of my AMS Mountain Medic bag, and it works very well.

http://www.ztknives.us/ZT_Tools.html

It's made of 154CM steel, and keeps a good edge. It's sort of a specialized tool, however, and costs more than most people's blowout kit. The Benchmade tool is definitely more affordable.

And bluepython's idea of a Sharpie is a good one. They make smaller ones now that do not take up much space. Be aware that depending on your patient's skin tone, it may be possible to miss even a large "T" drawn on a forehead.

[rob_s]

A buddy of mine is at COP Shocker and he said they're issued the BM RH7.

[calebgriffin31]

I am currently trying to get those bm rh7's issued right now. There are too many good uses for them not to get them. Blue python, That is great advice regarding training. More often than not, in the span of your lifetime you will be in a situation where it could save someone's life. Personally I would like to be prepared to do something when that happens. Back on topic, The USMC IFAK is a good piece of gear. I do add a Sharpie, safety razor, 550 cord, chem lights, and a bic lighter.

[Iraq Ninja]

Not sure if the BMs are issued, but they are for sale at the Victory PX.

www.tacmedsolutions.com has some good kit, and is run by a former 18D. They also have some online training videos. I recently got one of their dog med kits. I haven't tried it yet, but I will shoot my neighbor's dog this weekend and report back...

[Mikey]

That place is awesome, I'm about halfway through the videos. They have answered about 10 questions I was about to post up.

Thanks for posting that link.

-Mike

[calebgriffin31]

Thanks for that link. It looks like there is quite a bit of information there.