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    Tale of 4 lowers

    WARNING: Large Pictures

    In recent month I've picked up a few lowers for some builds I'm working on. I will do a picture comparison with my Colt lower from my 6920.

    I have:
    1. Stag Arms
    2. Areo Precision
    3. Cavalry Arms
    4. Colt lower from my 6920

    I won't do a picture comparison with the Cavalry lower as it's apples and oranges, instead I'll just give my experience and thought about the Polymer Lower.

    NOTE: the white specs on the Colt lower are only visible in the pictures do to the flash. They cam from someone who was spray painting upwind from where my rifle was. Also the apparent scuff marks on the stag are not as noticeable in real life as in the pics.

    Let me say that all the aluminum lowers seem to be in spec and I had no issue installing the LPKs.

    Here thy are:

    L to R -Colt, Stag, Areo

    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...D/DSCF4426.jpg
    The Cav curently sporting a BCM 16" M4 upper:

    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...D/DSCF4407.jpg

    Front view. L to R: Areo, Stag, Colt (camera help upside down)
    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...D/DSCF4427.jpg

    Tool marks are very evedent on the colt, almost none on the Stag the Areo is very smooth.

    Inside the trigger guard: Colt, Stag, Areo
    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...D/DSCF4430.jpg

    Stag and Areo are very smooth not so with the Colt

    Right Side of receiver":
    Colt
    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...D/DSCF4436.jpg

    Stag
    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...D/DSCF4437.jpg

    Areo
    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...D/DSCF4439.jpg

    not much difference . I do like the Pictogram for fire and safe on the Areo, just because it's different.

    Top Rear: Colt, Stag, Areo
    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...D/DSCF4441.jpg

    Can't really tell from the photo, but the Colt and Areo fit perfectly around the end plate. The stag protrudes a little around the end plate. Now I don't know if this is due to the Stag lower or the Danial Defense QD end plate it's sporting. The Colt has it's stock end plate and the Areo has a Noveske QD end plate. All future builds will get Noveske's.

    Also notice the Aero is a little thicker (re-enforced?) in the are around the rear right side push pin. The Colt is actually connected all the way through in this area.

    Top front: Colt, Stag, Areo
    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...D/DSCF4444.jpg

    Notice the area of the front push pins. The Colt is the roughest, the Stage a little Better and the Areo is very Smooth.

    Here's a closer look:
    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...D/DSCF4456.jpg

    Bottom Magwell area: Colt, Stag, Areo
    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...D/DSCF4446.jpg

    The Colt has the most flared mag well, Stag the second most and the Areo the least.

    Finish: Colt, Stag, Areo

    This pics will give you an idea, but best when seen in person:
    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...D/DSCF4456.jpg

    The Colt and the Areo are very nice, with a slight edge to Colt to my eyes. The Stag is very gry looking is shows scratches easily. they will probably disapear with the application of some oil, still the ugliest to me. The Colt and Areo also match the BCM upper much better than the Stag.

    As a side note the CMMG lowers I have seen also have a nice finish as do the Spikes Lowers I've run into. Was considering an CMMG because of this, but the Areo was less expensive ($119 vs 140) so I went with it. Plus I wanted to try something different than what you usually see.

    About the Cavalry Arms Lower:

    I have a OD green Cavalry Lower I just built into a 16" carbine (BCM Upper). It's about 4 oz. lighter than a standard complete lower, 8 oz. if the standard lower has a rubber but pad (witch the cave has built in).

    I couple of notes:
    Pros:
    1. getting the pins in and out was very easy and smooth.
    2. less expensive to build as you don't need a stock and grip (though most kits bring a grip anyway).
    3. once put together is a bit lighter than a standard complete lower.
    4. Is different and a bit unique.
    5. It is the same length as a standard AR with the stock collapsed one notch (how I usually have my stocks anyway).
    6. Upper and lower fit is very tight, NO movement at all.
    7. Stock has built storage compartment.

    Cons:
    1. I had to dermal the area around the mag catch as it was a little tight.
    2. Mine It would not lock the bolt back until I trimmed a coil or two from the bag catch spring. I guess you could also clean out/deepen the the sprong hole a bit to get it to work.
    3. Mine Does not droop free Pmag or aluminum mags. I have taken a file to the mag well as per Cav's instructions and it is getting better but still have not goten it to drop any of my mags yet.
    4. The push pins come all the way out and go in from the left side instead of the right, witch I have forgoten a few time as I vust recently built it.
    5. Had to drill out the hole for the buffer retainer pin in order to make it large enough for it to fit.

    The "cons" are a little inconvenient, but can all be fixed.

    Overall, glad I got it. It is something different. I am considering making it into an 18" SPR type rifle as it has such a tight fit and might make a good tack driver setup. But maybe not as the lower may tend to flex more, I'm not really sure. Alternately I may make it a 14.5 SBR for a more light weight rifle setup.

    Here she is:
    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...D/DSCF4405.jpg
    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...D/DSCF4402.jpg

    NOTE:
    I Hope to add two more lowers into the mix in the near future, a BOHICA Arms Billet lower and something else (haven't decided what yet). But this is it for now.
    Last edited by RojasTKD; 06-11-09 at 16:56.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RojasTKD View Post
    !!!!!! WORK IN PROGRESS!!!!!

    In recent month I've picked up a few lowers for some builds I'm working on. I will do a picture comparison with my Colt lower from my 6920.

    I have:
    1. Stag Arms
    2. Areo Precision
    3. Cavalry Arms
    4. Colt lower from my 6920
    Fixed it for you. Not trying to be a jerk and I'm really not a grammar/spelling Nazi, but that one really bugs me.

    AP really puts a deep rollmark on their lowers. Must have had a fresh set of dies in the press when they rolled that one out!
    Last edited by DRich; 06-10-09 at 14:45.

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    Interesting. Looking forward to your comparison.

    I'm newer to AR's so forgive if I should already know this but that Cavalry Arms receiver--that's frn or something similar? Craziness. I guess it worked for the semi-auto pistol world but a plastic receiver just seems terribly wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icculus View Post
    Interesting. Looking forward to your comparison.

    I'm newer to AR's so forgive if I should already know this but that Cavalry Arms receiver--that's frn or something similar? Craziness. I guess it worked for the semi-auto pistol world but a plastic receiver just seems terribly wrong.
    CavArms has been making those polymer lowers for a decade or so. They are incredibly strong and I abused mine for years with no issues. Great for lightweight builds as long as you don't mind the lack of options when it comes to grips and stock length. Plus, if you were somehow able to break it, they'd replace it for $10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRich View Post
    CavArms has been making those polymer lowers for a decade or so. They are incredibly strong and I abused mine for years with no issues. Great for lightweight builds as long as you don't mind the lack of options when it comes to grips and stock length. Plus, if you were somehow able to break it, they'd replace it for $10.

    Very interesting. Thanks.

    EDIT: Just checked out their site. I see what you mean about the stocks and grips. Looks like their cost to replace broken ones has gone up to $30 plus shipping though.
    Last edited by Icculus; 06-10-09 at 15:10.

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    i really like the Aero lowers, i may dump off a few of my others for those,

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    Quote Originally Posted by flanntastic View Post
    i really like the Aero lowers, i may dump off a few of my others for those,
    Yes, I think they are very nice and at an attractive price point. I tittle more flaring of the magwell be be welcomed though.

    Quote Originally Posted by DRich View Post
    AP really puts a deep rollmark on their lowers. Must have had a fresh set of dies in the press when they rolled that one out!
    Yes, the Areo rollmark is a little mor pronounced than the others, the lighting and reflection from the finish also played a role.

    Also I'll fix my Cavalry spelling for you.
    Last edited by RojasTKD; 06-10-09 at 16:30.

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    What's wrong with the AP assembly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlatoCATM View Post
    What's wrong with the AP assembly?
    what?

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    castle nut is backwards--unless it's not in its final configuration.

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