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11-11-09, 17:45
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Has anybody used this BCM charging handle that's being advertised on the m4carbine.net home page? I like what I've read about it. Is it made out of more durable metal or does it just have the modified latch? I've got a Badger Tac Latch on my AR. Is there a big difference in durability? Also, who has had a Tac Latch fail them? Back when I was new to firearms I bought a knock-off Tac Latch charging handle at a gun show that turned out to be made of pot metal or something. Crap like that could get somebody killed!
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11-11-09, 17:48
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Originally Posted by Colt LE6920
Has anybody used this BCM charging handle that's being advertised on the m4carbine.net home page? I like what I've read about it. Is it made out of more durable metal or does it just have the modified latch? I've got a Badger Tac Latch on my AR. Is there a big difference in durability? Also, who has had a Tac Latch fail them? Back when I was new to firearms I bought a knock-off Tac Latch charging handle at a gun show that turned out to be made of pot metal or something. Crap like that could get somebody killed!
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Search as there have been some threads on them.
I bought two, and like them a lot. Ive never had a standard CH break but I dont buy junk in the first place.
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11-11-09, 17:50
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They claim that the new design takes the load off of the roll pin. Has anyone ever had a charging handle roll pin fail?
Seems like a solution looking for a problem.
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11-11-09, 17:56
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Originally Posted by sonrider657
They claim that the new design takes the load off of the roll pin. Has anyone ever had a charging handle roll pin fail?
Seems like a solution looking for a problem.
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I have, twice. its especially problematic with lower quality charging handles either bending at the rear ears or the pin breaking. If the pin hole starts to elongate, then the pin itself will start to walk upwards, it will lodge in between the charging handle and upper receiver and down the weapon (this happened to mine when it failed). I've already ordered one and as time & funds allow, I'll probably be ordering more of them.
The stock charging handle sucks if you're running the rifle with a modern manual of arms.
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11-11-09, 18:57
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Originally Posted by Colt LE6920
Has anybody used this BCM charging handle that's being advertised on the m4carbine.net home page? I like what I've read about it. Is it made out of more durable metal or does it just have the modified latch? I've got a Badger Tac Latch on my AR. Is there a big difference in durability? Also, who has had a Tac Latch fail them? Back when I was new to firearms I bought a knock-off Tac Latch charging handle at a gun show that turned out to be made of pot metal or something. Crap like that could get somebody killed!
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I run the MOD 4. It is simply the best CH on the market today. Nothing compares to it.
We have seen the badger latch and PRI latches fail (to include my own personal PRI).
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11-11-09, 18:58
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Originally Posted by sonrider657
They claim that the new design takes the load off of the roll pin. Has anyone ever had a charging handle roll pin fail?
Seems like a solution looking for a problem.
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Incorrect. It is a fix for an existing problem.
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11-11-09, 19:06
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I saw alot of charging handles being replaced in the sand box on BM carbines. Part of the issue was the particular way things were being done (but when the client dictates the rules) then that's how it is. Having said that I believe that these handles would have truly shined. I have three of them on different carbines, but I have not had the chance o put them through the paces yet.
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They claim that the new design takes the load off of the roll pin. Has anyone ever had a charging handle roll pin fail?
Seems like a solution looking for a problem.
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11-11-09, 19:10
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They claim that the new design takes the load off of the roll pin. Has anyone ever had a charging handle roll pin fail?
Seems like a solution looking for a problem.
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Try one before you knock it!
I was skeptical before I tried one & as Grant said
"It is simply the best CH on the market today. Nothing compares to it."
Might I add that is is a excellent value.
$22.00 for a CMT charging handle
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$22.50 for a PRI Big Latch or comparable latch
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$44.95 for the BCH Gunfighter charging handle.
Comes about the same in cost but the value goes to BCM.
It's a no brainier!
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11-11-09, 19:50
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...makes a deadly combo with a BAD lever.
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11-11-09, 19:59
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Originally Posted by Colt LE6920
Has anybody used this BCM charging handle that's being advertised on the m4carbine.net home page? I like what I've read about it. Is it made out of more durable metal or does it just have the modified latch? I've got a Badger Tac Latch on my AR. Is there a big difference in durability? Also, who has had a Tac Latch fail them? Back when I was new to firearms I bought a knock-off Tac Latch charging handle at a gun show that turned out to be made of pot metal or something. Crap like that could get somebody killed!
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Dude, I've spent a lot of money on trial-and-error, finding gear that works for me, and gear that doesn't.
Ounce-for-ounce, the BCM Gunfighter is the best money I've ever spent on an AR-15 accessory/upgrade. I've always felt like the CH was one of the few weak links on the platform that has been way past due for a durability/reliability enhancement.
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11-11-09, 20:02
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Originally Posted by Navigating Collapse
Dude, I've spent a lot of money on trial-and-error, finding gear that works for me, and gear that doesn't.
Ounce-for-ounce, the BCM Gunfighter is the best money I've ever spent on an AR-15 accessory/upgrade. I've always felt like the CH was one of the few weak links on the platform that has been way past due for a durability/reliability enhancement.
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I own one, it is a nice piece of gear. Personally never had a "standard" CH fail, but have witnessed it.
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11-11-09, 20:38
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Thanks for all of the feed back. Sounds like this is a pretty popular piece of gear. I might get one. I've got some experience with the Colt M4 and the platform has proven itself to me so I don't replace parts on my 6920 much. It seems like there are a lot of AR accessories and manufacturers out there that are "iffy" at best.
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11-11-09, 21:00
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I think that the BCM Gunfighter charging handle is a great piece of gear. I wouldn't be to concerned about durability, it's machined from a billet piece of awesome 
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11-11-09, 21:01
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Originally Posted by Colt LE6920
I've got some experience with the Colt M4 and the platform has proven itself to me so I don't replace parts on my 6920 much.
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This is not a bad policy.
When the BCM Gunfighter first came to the market, each batch literally sold out in minutes. I've got a couple of them and they are very well made and durable. The larger than stock latch works well when you have optics installed.
BTW, I do not consider myself an expert on AR-15's. There a few members of this forum that I do consider experts. Listen to them and you will save a lot of money and hassle.
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11-11-09, 21:22
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Originally Posted by sonrider657
They claim that the new design takes the load off of the roll pin. Has anyone ever had a charging handle roll pin fail?
Seems like a solution looking for a problem.
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Amen!
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11-11-09, 22:40
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They claim that the new design takes the load off of the roll pin. Has anyone ever had a charging handle roll pin fail?
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That's the single most overused and misunderstood phrase in use amongst the internet gun community.
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11-11-09, 22:57
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My first hands on was at a three day class here in VA about 3 weeks ago. I ended up buying three of the BCM CH's to replace the Gas Buster's I had been running. Very solid, well made, and IMO priced right.
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11-11-09, 23:09
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They claim that the new design takes the load off of the roll pin. Has anyone ever had a charging handle roll pin fail?
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In the last 4yrs I've broken 5 roll pins (2 were PRIs), broken 2 standard charging handles. Sometimes roll pins just shear. I've broken one charging handle mortaring it to clear a stuck casing. Broke one that the left side of the charging handle split and the latch came completely out of the charging handle.
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Depends on your level of experience.
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11-11-09, 23:18
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Originally Posted by gotm4
In the last 4yrs I've broken 5 roll pins (2 were PRIs), broken 2 standard charging handles. Sometimes roll pins just shear. I've broken one charging handle mortaring it to clear a stuck casing. Broke one that the left side of the charging handle split and the latch came completely out of the charging handle.
Depends on your level of experience.
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Funny how the people that run ARs hard are relieved that there's a solution finally.
The rest seem to be in one of two camps.
1) Ohh new BCM cool stuff (which is fine)
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2) WTF would you need THAT for?
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