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12-12-09, 16:45
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Does the Daniel Defense M4 have a Cold Hammer Forged barrel?
Does the Daniel Defense M4 have a cold hammer forged barrel like the XV and version 2?
I just ordered one from DSG Arms and they, as well as AIM Surplus advertise it as such, but the Daniel Defense site lists a standard barrel for the M4.
I'm curious, didn't find an answer in previous threads, and am too impatient to wait until Monday to call DD to clear up the disparity.
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12-12-09, 16:54
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Originally Posted by Hunter Rose
Does the Daniel Defense M4 have a cold hammer forged barrel like the XV and version 2?
I just ordered one from DSG Arms and they, as well as AIM Surplus advertise it as such, but the Daniel Defense site lists a standard barrel for the M4.
I'm curious, didn't find an answer in previous threads, and am too impatient to wait until Monday to call DD. Thanks for any help.
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I took this off the site that you ordered your rifle from:
The Daniel Defense new tactical M4 is ready to shoot out of the box, it has all the necessary upgrades to make it a high end tactical AR15 type rifle. More information to come soon...
Specs:
1:7 Cold Hammer Forged Barrel
Extended Feed Ramps
MAGPUL MOE Buttstock
MAGPUL PMAG
MAGPUL Enhanced Trigger Guard
Daniel Defense OMEGA-X 12.0 FSP Rail System
Daniel Defense Back Up Rear Sight
Daniel Defense Vertical Grip
Enhanced Magazine Well
I believe when DD first got started they did not use the CHF barrel, but have been making them for some time now. The DDM4 does have a CHF as far as I know.
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12-12-09, 17:22
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12-12-09, 18:16
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Originally the M4's shipped with standard barrels.
All DD uppers and rifles now ship with CHF barrels.
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12-12-09, 19:30
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Excellent. Thanks for the confirmation.
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12-12-09, 20:32
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Originally Posted by RD62
Originally the M4's shipped with standard barrels.
All DD uppers and rifles now ship with CHF barrels.
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I assume it will be marked if it's CHF? I have an earlier DDM4, serial # in the low 300's. I don't think it has a CHF barrel, but would like to be sure.
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12-12-09, 20:46
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Originally Posted by texag
I assume it will be marked if it's CHF? I have an earlier DDM4, serial # in the low 300's. I don't think it has a CHF barrel, but would like to be sure.
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AI or AJ? If I remember correctly, the barrels weren't marked differently.
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12-12-09, 21:26
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Originally Posted by 00leland00
AI or AJ? If I remember correctly, the barrels weren't marked differently.
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It's an AJ.
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12-12-09, 21:28
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Possible it is, but highly doubtful.
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12-12-09, 23:17
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If the barrel has a date on it, it IS hammer forged
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12-12-09, 23:53
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Originally Posted by Copis
If the barrel has a date on it, it IS hammer forged
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No dice for me then. Mine says DD MP 4150 5.56 NATO 1/7. My awesome carbine narrowly avoided being even more awesome, how will I live with myself?
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12-13-09, 09:55
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texag and Hunter Rose private message sent
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12-15-09, 15:23
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Talked to someone about this at Daniel Defense yesterday. They said if it say's Savannah Ga, on the lower is should have a CHF barrel. He said that the barrels have no special markings than the non CHF.(Date?). I have a lower number AJ model.
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12-15-09, 15:46
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I believe some dealers still have the original non-hammer forged barreled guns that they are selling at a discount.
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12-15-09, 18:37
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Originally Posted by Rebjet
Talked to someone about this at Daniel Defense yesterday. They said if it say's Savannah Ga, on the lower is should have a CHF barrel. He said that the barrels have no special markings than the non CHF.(Date?). I have a lower number AJ model.
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SHOULD HAVE being the operative term, but not necessarily. Before the move to Black Creek none of the barrels were CHF. Even for a little while after they weren't. But I think we were still building some of the "Savannah, GA" lowers once the hammer forge was up and operational. Anything over AJ1000 should have a chf barrel. I didn't know about the barrel markings either until I called a buddy of mine who is still there to confirm. At this time the barrels are stamped with a date, which will be replaced with a batch number instead in the future, but just because your barrel has neither does NOT mean it isn't CHF. If I remember correctly the barrels we were installing didn't have the date stamp on them (last one I built was at the end of July.)
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12-16-09, 02:24
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My XV barrel is marked DD 5.56 NATO 1/7. Isnt it supposed to have 4150 MP on it?
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12-16-09, 19:33
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Originally Posted by perna
My XV barrel is marked DD 5.56 NATO 1/7. Isnt it supposed to have 4150 MP on it?
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Yeah, but I don't know how long they played around with markings before they decided what was finally going to be stamped on the barrels. i wouldn't sweat it. All the XV's were built with CHF barrels.
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12-16-09, 19:40
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Originally Posted by 00leland00
Anything over AJ1000 should have a chf barrel.
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I had emailed once before trying to figure out what serial number was the cut over. My DDM4 is on a Savannah lower with a number well under 1000 so I guess I'm out in the cold (pun intended). Oh well, still a great rifle.
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12-16-09, 20:49
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It's possible, depending on if it's AI or AJ. If it's AI I'm about 99% sure it's NOT a chf barrel.
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12-16-09, 21:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by perna
My XV barrel is marked DD 5.56 NATO 1/7. Isnt it supposed to have 4150 MP on it?
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i bought an m4 bbl that was noted to be chf and I emailed dd...here is the reply as I had the same markings:
We did have a batch of hammer forged barrels without the date stamp. The roll mark is exactly as you described so I am confident it is a hammer forged barrel.
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